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#1 God created us.

I won't say évolution doesn't exist at some level but the idea of man coming from pond scum is crazy.


But mud is OK? Or ribs in the case of women right?
Just not pond scum, that's right out.
 
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#1 God created us.

I won't say évolution doesn't exist at some level but the idea of man coming from pond scum is crazy.


But mud is OK? Or ribs in the case of women right?
Just not pond scum, that's right out.


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#2, while being open to the possibility/likelihood of #1 as a precursor/complement to #2.

As in, the universe may very well be created, designed, and ran by a Creator, but with it also having taking millions of years of evolution, guided by both intelligent design and direct intervention, to get to where we are today.

The ideas aren't mutually exclusive.


I think I’m kind of with Rogue on this. An omnipotent being could create a past, present and future simultaneously and exist across time. I think there is some allusion in the Bible that God knew Adam was going to sin before he did it.
 
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Some men did come into existence from pond scum. In fact, they haven't changed all that much from the pond scum days.

Other men came into existence from a more enlightened supreme being who is perfect with the exception of the one big mistake, failing to clean up the pond scum before the little critters in there had a chance to reproduce.
 
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The OP's question reminded me of an incident from my youth.

My brother and I had been in a conversation with our father for almost 3 hours, and it was getting late at night. I could tell he was wanting to get to bed when he really tried to wrap it up and end it. He had mentioned the fact that he had to get up for work in the morning and we had to get up for school a couple of times. Finally, I said, "Okay, Dad, but just one small, last question, okay?" He sighed and said yes.

I asked, "What is the meaning of life?"

We all laughed and hit the sack.



I found what you said riveting.
 
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If not #1, then who cares?


Scientists. Curious people. Most people. Me.


My neighbor is a scientist, and an atheist. He once knocked on our door, told us he was scheduled for some surgery, wanted us to pray for him. Who would you like us to pray to (as you are an atheist)? "Just covering my bases".

He fully believes in natural evolution. I asked him if, given billions of years of evolution, a jet plane could form itself on our street, fully fueled, and take off? He replied that if the matter and energy are "destined" for such, then yes, it could happen. I asked where "destiny" comes from. He remembered he was late for an appointment. Smile




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I believe every word of the Bible.


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I believe that there is a Divine Creator, an Unmade Maker. I believe in the Trinity.
However I also believe that God could have worked through the process of evolution.
I also believe that my human limitations make it impossible to know the answer(s).

God bless you all, my friends.
[Disclosure: posted on post-procedure narcotics, feeling very mellow and loving.
Thank God he created anesthesiologists and pharmaceutical companies. Wink ]


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#2 of course
 
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If not #1, then who cares?


Scientists. Curious people. Most people. Me.


My neighbor is a scientist, and an atheist. He once knocked on our door, told us he was scheduled for some surgery, wanted us to pray for him. Who would you like us to pray to (as you are an atheist)? "Just covering my bases".

He fully believes in natural evolution. I asked him if, given billions of years of evolution, a jet plane could form itself on our street, fully fueled, and take off? He replied that if the matter and energy are "destined" for such, then yes, it could happen. I asked where "destiny" comes from. He remembered he was late for an appointment. Smile


Sounds like he has a lot of faith. He just doesn’t know what he has it in.
 
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Do God's ever disagree?
And
If so then what?
And if I believe and follow the word of three God's
Does it give me a better shot
At eternal happiness ?





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Do God's ever disagree?
And
If so then what?
And if I believe and follow the word of three God's
Does it give me a better shot
At eternal happiness ?


If you're referring to the Trinity, God is one God in three persons. Christians are monotheists.
 
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Scientists. Curious people. Most people. Me.


My neighbor is a scientist, and an atheist. He once knocked on our door, told us he was scheduled for some surgery, wanted us to pray for him. Who would you like us to pray to (as you are an atheist)? "Just covering my bases".

He fully believes in natural evolution. I asked him if, given billions of years of evolution, a jet plane could form itself on our street, fully fueled, and take off? He replied that if the matter and energy are "destined" for such, then yes, it could happen. I asked where "destiny" comes from. He remembered he was late for an appointment. Smile


Sounds like he has a lot of faith. He just doesn’t know what he has it in.


I think he has full faith and confidence that science is the ultimate god. I did once have a somewhat recognized scientist comment to me "how many things were considered scientific truth 50 years ago that today we laugh at? Roll forward - how many things do we consider scientific truth today that in 50 years we will laugh at"?




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
 
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Originally posted by Scoutmaster: I asked him if, given billions of years of evolution, a jet plane could form itself on our street, fully fueled, and take off? He replied that if the matter and energy are "destined" for such, then yes, it could happen. I asked where "destiny" comes from. He remembered he was late for an appointment. Smile


Airplanes are not living creatures, so they can’t evolve. However, the humans needed to build one certainly did and could do so again.
 
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