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While all of this may be true, I sleep much more comfortably with a conservative president in the White House. If I could debunk any one of the Left's lies, it would be that Hitler was on the Right. | |||
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Alea iacta est |
Jesse, Happy Birthday. Sorry to hear your dinner didn’t turn out as planned. BTW, you won a Karma. I don’t think you have seen this yet... https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/1300079164 The “lol” thread | |||
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Wait, what? |
Happy birthday This just proves really smart people are not immune from ignorance. It’s the same kind of mentality of voting for a party because you’ve always done it that way. Were I in your situation, I’d personally just tell my grandfather (if he were still among the living) that we must agree to disagree. Respect his opinion and tell him to do the same. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
That's going to make the pro-abortion crowd nervous. The SCOTUS majority decision by the Blackmun Court cited the 9th and 14th Amendments in their decision that discovered a Constitutional right to abort a baby. Happy birthday, hope your grandfather spends the rest of his days in contentment. _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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Ammoholic |
Thank you and every one that wished me happy birthday. It was actually two weeks ago. My family never does anything on time. Yep I should have just changed the subject, which is what I always do when politics comes up. The Hitler comp, pissed me off, only reason I continued discussion. Say you hate his policies, say you hate the person, both are valid avenues for disagreement, but for a Holocaust survivor to compare DJT to him seems ludicrous. In fact his wife asked me why I never talk about politics, I said it dangerous to my income to do so, and there aren't many people in my area I can have an actual, real conversation about with. Lesson learned. I honestly don't know what party he even votes for, just that he volunteers every election to run polling stations. Only other conversation we've had was regarding illegal immigration, which he asked if I realized he was a refugee. I replied yes I knew that, but he did it legally. Got sponsored; gave up everything in his home country; got papers in order; spent weeks in quarantine at Ellis; changed his name to more American name; served in the Air Force, then served his country in private areospace rolls; has no allegiance to Germany; learned English; etc. We ended the conversation there. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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186,000 miles per second. It's the law. |
Jesse, you are blessed with a grandpa who survived the holocaust. He will not be around much longer. If I were you, I would record everything he says. Ask him a ton of questions. Make a recording. Don't worry about his view of current politics. Ask him questions about when he was young. God bless him! | |||
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Ammoholic |
Thanks for the reminder. I actually had asked him to tell us everything and do an interview. He ended up doing with some cousins I don't know that has a production company. I need get a copy of that. It's not exactly what I wanted, because I wanted to ask the questions and ask him to fill in details I don't know, but having someone I don't know do it, they may ask questions I wouldn't have thought to ask. At my request for Passover he told us the history of our family in Germany, the trip here, and the early years in America (NYC). I'll tell you what, people who complain about being misgendered have no clue what real racism/non-inclusion looks like. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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186,000 miles per second. It's the law. |
Yep. Record every thing he says. Ask lots of questions. He does not have much time left. You will be so glad you did. God Bless Him. I am in a similar situation. There is not much time left with that generation. When they are gone, its over. I suggest not asking about modern politics. Ask about when he was young. Ask about his personal history. Great Respect for your Grandpa. | |||
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Bad dog! |
I agree fully with those who say let it go, brush it aside, and honor and love your grandfather. Mark Twain said "A cat that has sat on a hot stove lid will never sit on a hot stove lid again. And he won't sit on a cold one either." In India I heard this: "Once you've been bitten by a cobra, everything in the grass looks like a cobra." Hitler's message might well have been "Make Germany great again." And no doubt the patriotism, the flags, the big crowds-- it all looks like a cobra to him. He is probably surprised that a bright guy like yourself can't see it. And-- Happy Birthday! ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
The different political forces that he was exposed to as a young, developing mind don't exist anymore, and surely not over here. Yes, parallels can be drawn, but the powers that were, and vied to be during his youth, have all largely been replaced. What he compares the world around him to, some 75 years later, is still largely going to center on his understandings of the world formed during those horrible times. I also think it may be best to simply avoid all talk of politics with him. And as for your questions being asked him in an interview, why not post an ad for college student doing journalism, production or film class to do the interview? I'm sure you'd have a number of decent applicants seeing it as a great opportunity. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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Ammoholic |
I talked to him a couple of days ago to thank him for dinner and inquire about the video my cousin did 14 months ago. Editing still not complete. I told him to call her and find out what is up or else I'd make him do it again all over. He said he'd call right away, not too keen on three hours in front of camera with bright lights in his eyes. As for the politics talk, not going to happen. I'll change subject. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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