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The kid came into the store and looked around after picking up some stuff and then started to run out. They verbally stopped him at the door and asked him to empty his pockets and out came an upaid for Scout gadget. He gave it back and left and a few minutes later his mommy came over and started to yell at my son and his friend who were running the trading post. She then went and yelled out the director too. Another leader saw what happened and supported the boys but it seems little Johnny’s mother didn’t like him being caught stealing and it was my son’s fault that he did. Roll Eyes This was a 11 year old day camp as an FYI.


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Oh boy;That kids life is going to turn out wonderful,and he can later thank his mother for it.


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My mother would have whipped my ass with a belt and then would have made me publicly apologize. Has little Jonnie been expelled yet?

More leftist bullshit from little Johnnie's snowflake mommy...



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One of the Jr DFs stole an item when he was 5. We found him with it and after a few questions, he confessed. We took him back to the store and made him give it back with a confession and apology. It was hard to watch him suffer through that humiliation and fear. He never stole anything ever again.



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The camp Director should be notified and the kid, due to his stealing and the parents actions, should be reminded of the Scout Law, then asked to leave camp.

There is no place in a Boy Scout camp for a kid that steals, and who's parent yells at Scouts doing the right thing.




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So, what did the Camp Director do? Let is slide, apologize, or tell the mother to pound sand?




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Wouldn't have had that outcome at any of my Scout Outings! Would have been a teaching moment for both mother and son!




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Unfortunately, the director let it slide so all teaching moments were lost.


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“A Scout is trustworthy...”
 
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Unfortunately, the director let it slide so all teaching moments were lost.


Sounds like the director needs to grow a set.


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Unfortunately, the director let it slide so all teaching moments were lost.


What a let down. That director is an asshole, and if it was my kid that got yelled at he would have heard about it, and so would that lady. And every scout and parent at camp would have been made aware there was a thief in their midst. These people need to be called on their BS, that kid should have been asked to make amends or leave.




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Unfortunately, the director let it slide so all teaching moments were lost.


Incorrect, there was a major teaching moments here.

1. The thief scout learned that if he is caught, mom will yell and scream and there are no consequences
2. Mom learned that if she yells at the accuser, her little thief gets away with no penalty
3. Your son learned that if he sees something wrong and speaks up, he'll get verbally assaulted by an adult
4. EVERYONE learned that the Camp Director has zero control over the camp, and is more concerned with keeping the peace than enforcing good values and discipline.

Granted, not a single one of those is a good lesson, but it was definitely a teachable (and I hate that term) moment.




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Scouting is just another broken relic of the past. It means nothing anymore. My son just completed Webelo, and finished with the Super Webelo achievement, which is completion of every elective. He decided not to go on to Boy Scouts, and I wasn't too upset. It's not what it used to be. It used to be about learning how to be a man, honor, loyalty, brotherhood, and useful life skills.




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Wow!



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I think that this is such BS that I would go up the chain of command and give them the chance to make it right, or I'd go to the press. BSA has enough bad press already that someone should care.
 
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Unfortunately, the director let it slide so all teaching moments were lost.


Incorrect, there was a major teaching moments here.

1. The thief scout learned that if he is caught, mom will yell and scream and there are no consequences
2. Mom learned that if she yells at the accuser, her little thief gets away with no penalty
3. Your son learned that if he sees something wrong and speaks up, he'll get verbally assaulted by an adult
4. EVERYONE learned that the Camp Director has zero control over the camp, and is more concerned with keeping the peace than enforcing good values and discipline.

Granted, not a single one of those is a good lesson, but it was definitely a teachable (and I hate that term) moment.


It did give me an opportunity to talk to him about right and wrong and just because the kid’s mother ignored everything doesn’t change things. I have a good friend who is a juvenile court judge and we’ve talked a lot about what brings kids into court. Stealing like this will catch up with “Jr” sooner or later.


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Pathetic. Unacceptable. Unless there's a new Merit Badge for Petty Theft that I'm not aware of.
 
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In my fantasy world as the camp director, I would have verified the offense and sent the kid and mom home if their contrition were not in full bloom. Then I would have gathered the rest of the camp and had a teaching moment wherein we discussed honor and trustworthiness. I would spend the time inspiring the remaining youth to do right by the Boy Scout law. I would edify them to moral decency. That is what Boy Scout of America used to be. What we saw here was the BSA on it's way down.



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I would have verified the offense and sent the kid and mom home


The problem is if he sent Mrs. Oleson and her kid home, it might start trouble. Evidently the director thought it better to make the peace, and cheat every boy in the camp out of a character lesson in how things are supposed to be in life.

BB61, you are correct, this kind of treatment is undoubtedly how some end up at the point of the mountain.

I would seriously complain to the Council about the camp director. It isn't likely much would come of it, but they need to hear it anyway.
 
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I would have verified the offense and sent the kid and mom home


The problem is if he sent Mrs. Oleson and her kid home, it might start trouble. Evidently the director thought it better to make the peace, and cheat every boy in the camp out of a character lesson in how things are supposed to be in life.

BB61, you are correct, this kind of treatment is undoubtedly how some end up at the point of the mountain.

I would seriously complain to the Council about the camp director. It isn't likely much would come of it, but they need to hear it anyway.


...or they can stay and suffer the lesson while all eyes are on Jr. Up to them I suppose.



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