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Yes, grandchildren, not great grandchildren or great, great grandchildren.

http://www.newsweek.com/presid...hildren-tyler-778358

AMERICA'S 10TH PRESIDENT, BORN IN 1790, HAS TWO LIVING GRANDCHILDREN AND TWITTER USERS CAN'T BELIEVE IT

John Tyler, America’s 10th president, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren. Yes, you read that correctly.

In a Twitter thread that has since gone viral, Matt Smethurst, a Kentucky native and editor at The Gospel Coalition, tweeted the revelation along with more details on the lineage of the former president.

“1. John Tyler was 63 when his son Lyon was born (1853). 2. Lyon was 71 when Lyon Jr. was born (1924), and 75 when Harrison was born (1928). 3. Both sons are still alive.”



Smethurst discovered the information after coming across a 2016 Mental Floss article, he told Newsweek in an email.

The editor went on to clarify exactly how shocking this information is.

“Another way to think about this: There are people who could look at you today, in 2018, and say: “Yeah, my dad was 8 years old when the war started.” “World War 2?” “Ha, nope.” “Oh wow, World War 1?” “The Civil War.”

One Twitter user, Robert Maguire, an employee at Open Secrets, replied to the thread to say he used to mow Lyon Tyler Jr.’s lawn when the grandson of the former president lived in Charleston in the 1990s.

John Tyler had fifteen children between his two wives. His two living grandsons descend from his second marriage.

Harrison, the youngest of the former president's living grandsons, spoke to New York Magazine in 2012.

Harrison, whom the magazine described as "a mentally sharp octogenarian with a soothing Southern drawl and a more favorable opinion of his grandfather’s legacy than the ones held by most presidential historians" said that although he doesn’t frequently bring up the fact that he is John Tyler’s grandson, he is sometimes referred to as the great-grandson.

“We have to correct that,” Harrison said.

At the time of the interview, Harrison was residing in the historic Tyler family home in Virginia, where tours are given. Harrison, although he does not normally give the tours himself, makes an exception on certain occasions, he told the magazine.

"If there’s groups of ten or more people, particularly if there are lovely ladies involved, then I’ll give the tour."

The original tweet by Smethurst now has over 18,000 retweets, one from CNN anchor Jake Tapper.



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Wow. Eek This is amazing - to me. Almost Onion like.


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A very interesting and surprising factoid.




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That’s remarkable all right.

Sam Houston was born in 1793. His son Andrew Jackson Houston, was born in 1854.

Andrew Jackson Houston was present for a speech by Franklin Roosevelt at the San Jacinto Monument dedication June 11, 1936. The President recognized Houston, recalling how Roosevelt’s father had told about dealing with Senator Houston decades before.

My mother was there with her parents. This circumstance has long seemed incredible to me.

Andrew Jackson Houston served briefly as a Senator from Texas before dying in 1941.




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Sherwood Forest Plantation is between Richmond and Williamsburg. As the OPs linked article says, it's still in the Tyler family.

We were there a couple of months ago with the Virginia Historical Society: if you're in the area, it's definitely worth a visit. Explore the link above for more details.



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Sherwood Forest Plantation is between Richmond and Williamsburg. As the OPs linked article says, it's still in the Tyler family.

We were there a couple of months ago with the Virginia Historical Society: if you're in the area, it's definitely worth a visit. Explore the link above for more details.


I'm definitely putting this on the list to see when I get up that way.

It's hard to even fathom being able to say that your FATHER was EIGHT years old when the Civil War started.



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Truman’s mother refused to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom because she held a grudge from the civil war.
 
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Not nearly as cool but when I was reading a bio on Lincoln I realized that his oldest son was still alive when my Aunt was born.
 
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Well, stuff like this is possible when you're cranking out kids in retirement!


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It is amazing when you think about it. I saw a friend of my father's listed in the obituaries the other day. He was born in 1938 and had 6 children, 10 grandchildren, 29 great grandchildren, and 5 great great grandchildren.

I suppose that's the difference between having children in your teens vs. your 70s.


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My mind was paralyzed when it saw 1790 and figured at least 200 years. Then I had to do the math of taking away 63 leaving ~140 years between son and grandson. Assuming the grandson was born when the son was 50 leaves 90 years for the grandson so it's doable.

But now I see Lyon was 75 when the younger grandson was born. I don't think the family should be notable for their longevity but rather for their verility. Wow. My dad had me when he was 50.



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It is amazing when you think about it. I saw a friend of my father's listed in the obituaries the other day. He was born in 1938 and had 6 children, 10 grandchildren, 29 great grandchildren, and 5 great great grandchildren.

I suppose that's the difference between having children in your teens vs. your 70s.


Yeah. That's pretty crazy. My mother-in-law was born in 40. She has 4 children, and 7 grandkids. And no great grandchildren. Though not not conceivably far off, as the oldest granddaughter is a freshman in college. Interestingly, she was in her 30s when she starting having kids.

To me the most striking thing about the OP is how late in life they were still having kids.
 
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My grandfather was born in Danzig, before the War.

Was that the Second World War? Nope.
Was that the First World War? Nope.

Well, what “War” was it?

The Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71. My Grandfather was born in March 1867 in Danzig, Prussia before the Bismarck united the German States into the Kaiserreich. He was 52 years-old when my Father was born.

Family “lore” has it that my Grandfather is the product of an illicit liaison between my paternal Great-Grandmother and William, King of Prussia (future first German Kaiser), during a stop-over in the area just after the Bruderkrieg of 1866 (aka Austro-Prussian War). But I don’t put any stock into the “family lore”, given some of the exaggerations that were spoken by my Father’s sisters. Roll Eyes


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Really cool. Thanks for posting this.

It certainly boggles my brain a bit. I had a great uncle who passed away a few years ago at 106. He was in his 30's when he fought in World War II. The thing that gets me most is that he was married twice. Both wives passed away. Both marriages lasted over 30 years.



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It's nice to hear that John Tyler did eventually turn his life around and make something of himself by getting married, having children, and wow, even becoming President!

For a little while there, I heard he was a bit of a troublemaker...



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Amazing
 
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Hard to believe but birth dates make it possible.
 
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That's amazing. But the past is often much closer than we think. The last Civil War soldier died in 1957. Many of us here were alive then-- contemporaries of a veteran of the Civil War.

Children of Civil War fathers are still alive today. Not great grandchildren, grandchildren-- children, as in "My father was in the Civil War."

https://news.nationalgeographi...-civil-war-memories/


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My Grandfather was born in March 1867 in Danzig, Prussia before the Bismarck united the German States into the Kaiserreich. He was 52 years-old when my Father was born.



I'm 46 and my grandfather was born in 1889. Conversely, my wife's (she's 45) grandfather was born in 1928 or so.


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