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Baroque Bloke
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
Interesting: it appears that EVERY ONE of the states that have no personal income tax, is one of the blue-colored ones on the map.


Interesting, indeed!



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Missouri ranks ahead of Texas. Missouri has an income tax, Texas does not.
I'd like to get rid of it... believe me!



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It's good to see Kentucky beat the bottom. We finally have a Republican governor with some stones that is trying to fix this mess.


Problem is the democratic AG that is suing him at every turn. Yeah, the former governor's son. No conflict of interest there. Roll Eyes




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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
Interesting: it appears that EVERY ONE of the states that have no personal income tax, is one of the blue-colored ones on the map.


Interesting, indeed!


Utah has a personal income tax.

ETA: Never mind, I see what you're saying.


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Originally posted by V-Tail:
Interesting: it appears that EVERY ONE of the states that have no personal income tax, is one of the blue-colored ones on the map.
Utah has a personal income tax.

ETA: Never mind, I see what you're saying.
All states that do not have personal income tax are some shade of blue on the map.

NOT all states that are blue, have no income tax.

Think in terms of all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.



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Given that they've thrown a few recent governors in jail, I'm guessing Alabama just has a reasonably efficient bureaucracy.


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I'm not surprised as I'm a native Floridian!


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Originally posted by V-Tail:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
Interesting: it appears that EVERY ONE of the states that have no personal income tax, is one of the blue-colored ones on the map.
Utah has a personal income tax.

ETA: Never mind, I see what you're saying.
All states that do not have personal income tax are some shade of blue on the map.

NOT all states that are blue, have no income tax.

Think in terms of all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.


Yeah, I picked that up after I posted.


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Posts: 30401 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
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Originally posted by Veeper:
new public school teacher hires will be forced to join a 401K instead of pension programs.
Oh the HORROR, welcome to the real world. How many people out there have no pension or 401k


Can I ask why the real world has no pension or 401k? Even my crappy Walmart job had a company match 401k, including for P/T employees. I have seen several local manufacturing concerns switch away from Pension plans to 401k, most of which are employee only, but they are still offered.


Because almost half of American workers are not offered a retirement plan by the business they work for:
The Retirement Crisis: Why 68% Of Americans Aren't Saving In An Employer-Sponsored Plan

Also, most Americans work for small businesses (many of which do not offer any type of retirement plan or benefit):
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In 2012, according to U.S. Census Bureau data, there were 5.73 million employer firms in the U.S. Firms with fewer than 500 workers accounted for 99.7 percent of those businesses, and businesses with less than 20 workers made up 89.6 percent.

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Now, we did electric Charlie Crist twice so we can't claim to be batting 1.000.
 
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Now, we did electric Charlie Crist twice so we can't claim to be batting 1.000.


Yeah, I would not count Gov. Orange as even a Ryan Republican. He's a total populist and was while in office.

But the legislature has been decent fiscally. Smile


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Originally posted by cooger:
It's good to see Kentucky beat the bottom. We finally have a Republican governor with some stones that is trying to fix this mess.


Problem is the democratic AG that is suing him at every turn. Yeah, the former governor's son. No conflict of interest there. Roll Eyes


The people really messed up with that office's vote.




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I am a little surprised that Texas only ranks 23rd. I thought our situation was better than that.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Missouri ranks ahead of Texas. Missouri has an income tax, Texas does not.
I'd like to get rid of it... believe me!


I noticed that as well. Greitens will make a difference down the road I do believe.



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I am a little surprised that Texas only ranks 23rd. I thought our situation was better than that.

flashguy


I am surprised CA ranked as high as it did. Maybe they aren't considering all the unfunded public pensions.




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Wife and I were thinking about exiting California in a couple of years when I retire.

We were looking at Arizona and possible Idaho.

May have to look more at Idaho.

My Oncologist told me there are good doctors in the Phoenix area. Don’t know anything about Idaho except there is good fishing and hunting.



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I am a little surprised that Texas only ranks 23rd. I thought our situation was better than that.

flashguy


Be happy. But for the Grace of God (and oppressive taxes, near sanctuary status, unemployment, bridgate, $300 million allocated to patch up the state house when the estimate was $30 mil) could be like Jersey.



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Wife and I were thinking about exiting California in a couple of years when I retire.

We were looking at Arizona and possible Idaho.

May have to look more at Idaho.

My Oncologist told me there are good doctors in the Phoenix area. Don’t know anything about Idaho except there is good fishing and hunting.


Just thinking? Eek

Arizona, the Phoenix area specifically, has a lot of transplants from Chicago. You know, people who fucked up that state and fled the mess they made, and are now looking at another place to infest.

Idaho is a beautiful state though the winters aren't the friendliest.


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And they laughed at flyover country too. The Dakotas are doing quite well thank you very much. And, unlike Florida, we aren't plagued with June bugs! LOL



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And they laughed at flyover country too. The Dakotas are doing quite well thank you very much. And, unlike Florida, we aren't plagued with June bugs! LOL


Those bugs aren't as dumb as they look. Who wants to fly all that way for just one day of summer?

Sure, you have a picnic, but then it's back to ice fishing the rest of the year.




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