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Great Lakes protection faulted
Sewage, industrial chemicals still problems
John Flesher
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TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. – Despite recent improvements, the U.S. and Canada have a long way to go toward ridding the Great Lakes of pollution that endangers human health and the environment, an advisory agency said Tuesday.
Inadequately treated sewage, industrial chemicals and farm runoff are still flowing into the five lakes that provide drinking water for about 40million people, the International Joint Commission said in its first checkup report since both nations last updated the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement in 2012.
The report calls for improving drinking water and sewage treatment facilities, and strengthening clean-water regulations, particularly limits on phosphorus runoff that is largely responsible for explosive growth of harmful algae in Lake Erie. Agencies should also work faster to identify newer types of contamination, such as fire retardant chemicals, and develop strategies for limiting them, the report says.
“While significant progress has been made to restore and protect the lakes, the governments of Canada and the United States and Great Lakes civil society as a whole are living with the costly consequences of past failures to anticipate and prevent environmental problems,” the report says.
The two countries negotiated the first version of the water quality agreement in 1972 after a century of abuse that left portions of the lakes in deplorable condition. It focuses primarily on toxic pollution, invasive species and nutrient runoff but has been revised several times to include other threats, including climate change .
In the 45 years since the initial pact was signed, a number of highly contaminated “hot spots” in harbors and tributary rivers have been cleaned up and steps have been taken to reduce chemical and phosphorus discharges from industry and city wastewater treatment plants.
Yet too little has been done to make the lakes safe for drinking, swimming and fishing — the uses that most directly affect human health, the report says. Even as the Trump administration and many state and local governments seek to cut spending, the report recommends big increases to improve water infrastructure. It notes that a number of cities have dealt with unsafe drinking water incidents and many native tribal communities have longstanding boilwater advisories.
“Our municipalities must not be permitted to dump sewage into our drinking water and we call for a ‘zero discharge’ objective, which will bring to an end the all-too-frequent beach closings,” said Gordon Walker, the Canadian co-chairman of the international commission.
Lake Erie, which has the Great Lakes’ largest fish population, draws special attention in the report because of a worsening toxic algae plague. While the U.S. and Canada have set targets for reducing nutrient runoff that feeds algae, they lack enforceable deadlines and standards for applying fertilizer and manure on croplands.
“Voluntary measures have failed to protect Lake Erie from extreme algae blooms,” said Lana Pollack, the commission’s U.S. co-chairwoman.
Steps toward dealing with flame retardants and other emerging toxins have been “disappointingly slow,” the report said. Only eight such chemicals have been identified and no U.S.-Canadian plan has been devised for halting their release into the lakes

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When I see the mention of climate change in there, it just makes me really disqualify anything from it. These idiots need to give up on the policy. It's not a real thing.
 
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"Tastes great, less filling"
 
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Chemicals are one thing that definitely should be prohibited.

As to sewage, that's going to take a ton of money to fix due to the combined system. A lot of areas have combined storm sewers and sanitary sewers. When we get a low of rain, they have to discharge millions of gallons of sewage into the lakes. A lot of docks are now on land due to the accumulation of sludge.
 
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When I see the mention of climate change in there, it just makes me really disqualify anything from it. These idiots need to give up on the policy. It's not a real thing.

FIFY consider the source of the AP. The real story is the poop being bled into the lakes...


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There have been 190K new chemicals developed since WWII. RoundUp has already been found in woman's breast milk:

Glyphosate is bio-accumulative, passed through breast milk to newborns

Senior Monsanto scientist Dan Goldstein recently stated, “If ingested, glyphosate is excreted rapidly, does not accumulate in body fat or tissues, and does not undergo metabolism in humans. Rather, it is excreted unchanged in the urine.”

This is far from the truth, since the discovery of glyphosate in breast milk proves its bioaccumulation. Furthermore, glyphosate has been found to disrupt the shikimate pathway of human gut microbes, essentially destroying positive gut flora, inhibiting the body’s natural detoxification processes.

For years, Monsanto has claimed that their Roundup is safe because the human body excretes it. A new pilot study shows that glyphosate doesn’t just go away; it persists in mothers and is passed to their kin through breast milk.

In the wake of these findings, the Organic Consumers Association is calling out for an outright ban on glyphosate. Director Ronnie Cummins stated, “This is another in a long line of studies showing the many ways in which glyphosate poses a real danger to human health. It’s time for Americans to demand that the FDA, USDA and EPA ban this toxin for good.”

He continued, “At the very least, the FDA must require labels on foods that contain this dangerous toxin. And the best way to do that is to require mandatory labelling of foods that contain genetically modified organisms, most of which derive from crops that require massive amounts of Monsanto’s Roundup.”

But this strategy may be nearly impossible, since the EPA claims that glyphosate is not bioaccumulative. To make matters worse, the US government recently raised allowable levels of the weed killer in food products. Plus, the glyphosate measured in breast milk falls within the 700 µg/l maximum contaminant level established by the US for glyphosate in drinking water.
30 percent of breast milk samples showed detectable levels of glyphosate

The pilot study, conducted by Moms Across America and Sustainable Pulse, tested for glyphosate levels in American mothers’ breast milk. What they found was startling by European standards — concentrations of glyphosate in breast milk at 760 to 1600 times higher than pesticide limits set by European Drinking Water Directives.

In the small pilot study, 35 urine samples and 21 drinking water samples from across the US were measured. The results were compared with an EU study conducted by Friends of the Earth in 2013.
The urine samples of Americans were at least ten times more contaminated with glyphosate than Europeans. When samples of breast milk were analyzed, 30 percent showed detectable levels of glyphosate, which is theoretically passed on to newborns.

Virginia mother Jessica M., who tested positive for glyphosate in her breast milk, said, “It is frightening to see any glyphosate in my body, especially in my breast milk that will then contaminate my son’s growing body. It’s particularly upsetting to test positive for glyphosate because I go to great lengths to eat organic and GMO free. I do not consume any meats or seafood and only very rarely eat dairy. This really shows me, and should show others, just how pervasive this toxin is in our food system.”

http://www.glyphosate.news/201...ers-breast-milk.html
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Then there is this study done by Washington State University in 2015 that found no glyphosate in breast milk. Who are you to believe?? Roll Eyes

Washington State University scientists have found that glyphosate, the main ingredient in the herbicide Roundup, does not accumulate in mother's breast milk.

Michelle McGuire, an associate professor in the WSU School of Biological Sciences, is the lead researcher of the study, the first to have its results independently verified by an accredited, outside organization.

Her findings, presented at the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology Conference on July 23 in Big Sky, Mont., show that glyphosate, the most used weed-killing chemical in the world, does not accumulate over time in human milk. She conducted the study with Kimberly Lackey, Ph.D. candidate zoology, Laboratory Technician Janae Carrothers and colleagues at the nearby University of Idaho.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is using the study as part of an ongoing review of glyphosate regulations prompted by public concern over a controversial report on the chemical released by the advocacy group, Moms Across America, last year.

"The Moms Across America study flat out got it wrong," said McGuire, who is an executive committee member for the International Society for Research in Human Milk and Lactation and a national spokesperson for the American Society for Nutrition. "Our study provides strong evidence that glyphosate is not in human milk. The MAA findings are unverified, not consistent with published safety data and are based off an assay designed to test for glyphosate in water, not breast milk."

A questionable study

A large body of scientific evidence shows breast feeding offers unparalleled nutritional and immunological benefits for both mothers and children.

Taking this into consideration, you can imagine the consternation McGuire, a lactation physiologist with more than 25 years of research experience, felt when a study by activists publicly called into question the safety and healthfulness of breast milk.

The Moms Across America and Sustainable Pulse study claimed that traces of glyphosate were found in three out of ten breast milk samples submitted for analysis.

The findings, which were published on the Moms Across America website, garnered national media attention and quickly led to a good deal of public concern about the safety of glyphosate, a product widely used for weed control for over 30 years.

Independent regulatory and safety assessments of glyphosate conducted by scientists at organizations like the National Institutes of Health, the German Agency for Risk Assessment and the Georgetown University School of Medicine have found no consistent effects of glyphosate exposure on reproductive health or developing offspring.

In McGuire's research, she and her colleagues collected milk and urine samples from 41 lactating women living in or near the cities of Moscow, Idaho, and Pullman, Wash. The area is a highly productive agricultural region where glyphosate is routinely used in farming practices.

Ten of the women reported living on or directly adjacent to a farm or ranch, 23 of the women described their personal diet as conventional and 5 had personally mixed or applied glyphosate sometime in the past.

Milk and urine samples were analyzed for glyphosate and glyphosate metabolites using high sensitivity liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry methods specifically optimized for the task.

The study detected neither glyphosate nor any glyphosate metabolites in any milk sample, even when the mother had detectable amounts of glyphosate in her urine.

Urinary glyphosate levels were either non-existent or extremely low and not of concern, McGuire said. Additionally, no relationship was found between subjects who self-identified as consumers of conventionally grown foods instead of organics and urinary glyphosate levels, nor was there a difference between women who lived on or near a farm and those who lived in an urban or suburban non-farming area.

Analyses of the milk samples were conducted both in Monsanto laboratories in St. Louis and independently verified at Wisconsin-based Covance Laboratories, which is not affiliated with the WSU/UIresearch team or Monsanto.

"In conclusion, our data-obtained using sophisticated and validated methods of analyses- strongly suggest that glyphosate does not bioaccumulate and is not present in human milk even when the mother has detectable glyphosate in her urine," McGuire said. "These findings emphasize the critical importance of carefully validating laboratory methods to the biological matrix of interest, especially when it is as complex as human milk."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/r.../07/150723133120.htm


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Good grief.

The Agreement between the Great Lakes states, the U.S., the Great Lakes provinces and Canada either contains language relating to global warming or it does not. Putting a strike through the "news" report doesn't change that--whether you subscribe to the theory or not.



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Chemicals are one thing that definitely should be prohibited.


Ya know the Great Lakes are filled with a chemical known as the universal solvent? AKA, water.
 
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Chemicals are one thing that definitely should be prohibited.


Ya know the Great Lakes are filled with a chemical known as the universal solvent? AKA, water.


Check out Chemical Valley in Sarnia Canada. It’s just up river from me. 40% of Canada’s chemical production sitting right along the water.
 
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Hmmm... Last time I walked out on the Lower Harbor breakwater, I could see the bottom clearly through about 10 feet of water.
Gin clear. Looked clean to me and our water comes right from Lake Superior.


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Speaking of chemicals, last time we visited Lake Michigan, it was filled with dihydrogen monoxide, I even drank some by mistake, and survived.


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Hmmm... Last time I walked out on the Lower Harbor breakwater, I could see the bottom clearly through about 10 feet of water.
Gin clear.

That's probably not a good thing, being as it's probably because of the zebra mussels Frown



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