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I suspect it won't be long before the SJW demands the renaming of US Army facilities named after Confederate Generals. Fort Hood, Polk, Bragg, Benning, Gordon and Rucker come to mind.

SJW are already calling for the renaming of streets on Fort Hamilton NY that are named after some Confederates.



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While I'm the first one to quote Condi Rice's statement about scrubbing history for the sake of feelings is not good, the fact that there's not a Fort Pershing, Fort Eisenhower, Fort Bradley, Fort Marshall or, Fort Ridgeway is curious.

The US Army is very much wrapped up in the Civil War and the surrounding time periods, go to the Military Academy and a good chunk of the curriculum is around the Civil War; while that period was formative, there's been two world wars and several other conflicts since which produced some of our nations finest leaders.
 
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BS! Move on, this is a non issue.
 
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To the best of my knowledge, all of those Forts were named prior to WWI and II, and were named in a spirit of reconcilliation.



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BS! Move on, this is a non issue.


Just found this from the news: https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.a78f91b2381d



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This crap is so far off the rails I just can't believe it.




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This crap is so far off the rails I just can't believe it.


It's what God Damned Commies do. Rewrite, revise, remove all traces of everything but the glorious struggle for and triumph of world wide socialism.




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This crap is so far off the rails I just can't believe it.


It's what God Damned Commies do. Rewrite, revise, remove all traces of everything but the glorious struggle for and triumph of world wide socialism.


Anyone who thinks this would end if all Confederate statues and monuments were torn down is very much mistaken.

After every Confederate statue and monument is torn down, the Founding Fathers (who owned slaves) will be next. They are already going after Teddy Roosevelt. Anyone who thinks they would never attempt that doesn't understand what this movement is really all about.



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Someone, somewhere caved to mob-rule, or changes came about thru riot or the threat of riot. Its the new way to force change at the state and local level - and since someone got their way that way once somewhere, and with news organizations on their side, too.... This shit aint gonna stop.



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At some point, we are going to have to demolish the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial, rename Washington state and Washington D.C. and how have we gotten by calling the president's residence the White House for so long.


And we should stop calling the USA the USA because that name is synonymous with racism and imperialism.
 
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Be really progressive. Re-name the Presido to Ft. Chelsea Manning.
 
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rename Washington state and Washington D.C.


That takes too much work, they'll just change the Washington these places are named for, like how here King County changed it's name to King County. Before it was named for William R. King, the 13th Vice President, but now it's of course named for Martin Luther King Jr. Why? Because you're a racist, don't question it, Nazi! Also, he once visited, so he's like super important the the region.



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Sigh. I assume Mt. Rushmore will have to be demolished too? Just like ISIS was doing to historic sites in Syria. One of the things that make this so frustrating is that the politicians in DC just sit there and let it happen. Not a word about the violence on the other side.
 
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Be really progressive. Re-name the Presido to Ft. Chelsea Manning.
Funny, I was thinking of names we could change 'em to that would piss them off even more.
 
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Fort Bowe Bergdahl.



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Soon enough, those tow straps are going to be around statues of Washington and Jefferson. We are beginning to emulate the old Soviet model of scrubbing from our history anyone and anything that some leader or special interest group deems undesirable.


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To the best of my knowledge, all of those Forts were named prior to WWI and II, and were named in a spirit of reconcilliation.


The Army expanded in 1917 and again in 1941 with lots of new forts that needed naming.

Since 1945 we've been closing sites, I can't think of any new Army posts. One exception: In 1961 Ladd AFB (Fairbanks AK) was turned over to the Army and renamed Fort Wainwright.
 
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Looks like the Navy is also racist:

http://www.navytimes.com/news/...-of-the-confederacy/

Meet the Navy ships named in honor of the Confederacy

By: Geoff Ziezulewicz  

As debate rages and turns bloody in Charlottesville and elsewhere regarding the place that monuments to the slave-holding Confederacy should have in 21st century America, the guided-missile cruiser Chancellorsville steams along as part of Pacific Fleet.

The ship is named after the 1863 Battle of Chancellorsville, a Civil War engagement considered to be the greatest victory of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

The Navy commissioned the Chancellorsville in 1989, when it joined at least four other ships named in honor of a Confederate force that sunk U.S. warships during the Civil War.

The predominance of gray in the ship’s crest speaks to ”General Robert E. Lee’s spectacular military strategies and his dominance in this battle,” according to the ship’s website.

An inverted wreath also memorializes the Confederacy’s second-best known general, Stonewall Jackson, who was mortally wounded in the battle.

Such homages to the Confederacy on land have been contentious at best in recent years.

The conflict in Charlottesville this past weekend stemmed from local efforts to remove a statute of Lee.

Such removals elsewhere have at times metastasized into physical confrontations over what these symbols mean today and whether icons of a slave-holding past still belong in public spaces of regard.

Naming ships after defeated enemies of the United States remains baffling to Earl J. Higgins, a 75-year-old retired Navy officer, author and lawyer who wrote about the issue earlier this year.

“We are naming ships of the United States Navy after people who fought war against the United States,” Higgins said. “We’ve twisted the narrative so that we make these people the heroes.”

A war’s winners ordinarily dictate the narrative, Higgins noted.

“For some reason or other, in the Civil War, the losers got to,” he said.

Lee, the figurehead of the defeated Confederacy, had a nuclear submarine named after him in 1960, and it was the first such boat built in the south. The Robert E. Lee was decommissioned in 1983.

The Navy named a ballistic missile submarine after Jackson in 1964, one that was decommissioned 31 years later in 1995.

The H.L. Hunley was a Confederate submarine that sunk the USS Housatonic warship in 1864.

In 1962, the Navy commissioned a submarine tender and named it Hunley.

George Dixon commanded the Confederate submarine that sank the Housatonic. He got his own submarine tender named after him when the USS Dixon was commissioned in 1971.

How or why the Navy opted to name vessels after figureheads who fought the United States remains unclear.

A Southern Poverty Law Center timeline shows a spike in schools named after the Confederacy — as well as other monuments and tributes — during the Civil Rights struggles of the 1960s, the same decade the Navy commissioned the Lee, Jackson and Hunley.

Navy secretaries get inundated with suggested names for new ships, Higgins said, and the names may have been the result of clout held by southern U.S. legislators.

He also said it may have been meant as an homage to the military prowess of enemies.

Naval History and Heritage Command officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment regarding naming of those ships.

Higgins said he first started pondering the issue as he watched people protesting the removal of Confederate statues in New Orleans earlier this year.

“They were people who fought war against the United States, and yet people are sort of claiming them as some sort of American hero,” he said. “We have very bizarre notions of history.”

Higgins grew up in Louisiana, where he saw the irony of mythologizing the Confederacy. He blames the romanticization of the Civil War South on “the whole ‘Gone with the Wind’ nonsense,” and the sheer trauma of the conflict.

“I grew up here, and we got the view of the Civil War that it wasn’t about slavery, it was about state’s rights and so forth,” Higgins said. “The Civil War was so horrible. Nobody could face the horror of it, so they were making up a mythology.”

Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson voiced his opposition on social media Saturday to the right-wing hate groups bearing the stars and bars of the Confederate flag alongside swastikas in Charlottesville.

“The Navy will forever stand against intolerance and hatred,” he said. “We want our Navy to be the safest possible place — a team as strong and tough as we can be, saving violence only for our enemies.”

Any such initiative would mobilize “the crazies” that came to Charlottesville, Higgins said.

“People have either an ignorance of history, a twisted notion of history or they simply do not like and refuse to accept the reality of history,” he said. “And that is the Civil War, slavery, Jim Crow.”
 
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And now, this: Some SJWs are calling for removal of some Presidents names from stuff because they owned slaves:http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners/



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Why did we name military aircraft after indians Roll Eyes We defeated them?




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