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what a travesty

stop the world I want to get off

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Posts: 8940 | Location: Florida | Registered: September 20, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The more ominous question for me is, what do you suppose a man who would pawn his gun would do once the shooting started.......even if he had a gun?


Run, but not in the correct direction.

A little light reading suggests that the districts/schools that went the security officer route drew almost entirely from retired cops and former military, and had plenty of well-qualified from both applying. How this Mutant-American landed a job is an absolute mystery to me.
 
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A little light reading suggests that the districts/schools that went the security officer route drew almost entirely from retired cops and former military, and had plenty of well-qualified from both applying. How this Mutant-American landed a job is an absolute mystery to me.


According to their website:

"Two-thirds of our district’s current security officers are current or former law enforcement officers and one-third are current or former military servicemembers."

But 66% Law Enforcement and 33% Military doesn't mean 99% total LE/Mil. There's likely significant overlap between those two populations, considering the majority of LEOs are current/former military, and a decent chunk of military guys are/were some form of military police. So it'd be something more like ~75% total LE/Mil, which would still leave ~25% that are neither.

Also, just because someone is "former LE/Mil" (or sometimes even "current LE/Mil") doesn't automatically mean they're not an idiot. There are plenty of morons with poor judgement and even worse money management skills that are former LE/Mil. (Might even be the reason why they're "former"...)
 
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Also, just because someone is "former LE/Mil" (or sometimes even "current LE/Mil") doesn't automatically mean they're not an idiot. There are plenty of morons with poor judgement and even worse money management skills that are former LE/Mil. (Might even be the reason why they're "former"...)


Oh, agreed. There are co-workers (current and former) who I'd trust with the keys to my house, banking PINs, and power of attorney. Then there are co-workers (current and former) who I wouldn't trust with a $100 prepaid VISA.

But the screening for one of these guys-- either set-- should be somewhat more streamlined and probably more reliable. "DennisM retired from your job last month. Here's a release... can I see his entire personnel and IA jackets after I'm done interviewing half a dozen guys who worked with him and have school-aged children?"
 
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The more ominous question for me is, what do you suppose a man who would pawn his gun would do once the shooting started.......even if he had a gun?



This sparked a thought. Have ANY of our school shootings occurred in disadvantaged neighborhoods? I'm not including drive by and hand related issued...
 
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In the army I saw an Air Force SP who skipped weapons draw and was pulling people over unarmed so he could get off work 15 mins. Sooner.. I was in his flight chiefs office shooting the shit when he found out and boy I’ll tell ya. I didn’t think Airmen actually got yelled at but this guy got an ass chewing that had to do some emotional damage


As a former Air Force SP, he is not the last to try that.

He also got emotionally damaged by the conversation.


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What I am seeing out of current recruiting isn’t good. Seems to be a fair amount of young officers that I wish would try as hard to be the po-leece as they do at appearing to be the po-leece on their social media platforms.

Most graduate the academy and think they are entitled to be assigned straight to SWAT or CSI. But their supervisor and peer reviews suck.




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In the army I saw an Air Force SP who skipped weapons draw and was pulling people over unarmed so he could get off work 15 mins. Sooner.. I was in his flight chiefs office shooting the shit when he found out and boy I’ll tell ya. I didn’t think Airmen actually got yelled at but this guy got an ass chewing that had to do some emotional damage


As a former Air Force SP, he is not the last to try that.

He also got emotionally damaged by the conversation.

Creating a significant emotional event in a young Airman (or young officer) is an art form that takes many years to perfect.


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