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Zero Hedge article is skeptical of msm accounts of shooting...


Against my better judgement, I clicked the link and read the 16 points. Every single one has been debunked in this thread, is factually wrong, or is just plain stupid.


I came to the same conclusion. The flickering light near the 4th floor was flickering when there was no noise. It was not a 2nd shooter. That writer is trying to stir the pot.
 
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Zero Hedge article is skeptical of msm accounts of shooting...


Against my better judgement, I clicked the link and read the 16 points. Every single one has been debunked in this thread, is factually wrong, or is just plain stupid.

Yup, I'm that much dumber for having read that page this morning.
Shooter on the 4th floor...fire alarm strobe, wheres the broken window anyways?
 
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a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns


Yeah, as if you have to be buff and athletic to blindly fire into a large crowd from an elevated position. . . Roll Eyes

That right there is enough to discredit this 'source.'



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Yeah, as if you have to be buff and athletic to blindly fire into a large crowd from an elevated position. . . Roll Eyes


Especially if, as was reported, he had some of the rifles mounted on tripods.

(Although who knows how accurate that is, at this point. Some LE source may have told reporters "some of the rifles had bipods", and the news then reports "the guns were on tripods".)

There are no tripods in the three photos from the hotel room, but those only show part of the multi-room suite.
 
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I haven't read this whole thread, seeing some conspiratorial questions. Anyone bring up "Parallax View"?

I do see Paddock was prescribed anti-anxiety meds in June, there's a wild card.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...-can-cause-paranoia/


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I haven't read this whole thread, seeing some conspiratorial questions. Anyone bring up "Parallax View"?
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I haven't read this whole thread, seeing some conspiratorial questions. Anyone bring up "Parallax View"?
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I at this point in time I will not lock into just one shooter or multiple shooters. As an investigator tunnel vision is not your friend.


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Former VP candidate Tim Kaine wisely states that if the shooter had a silencer many more would have died. Because, obviously, a silencer would have reduced the sound of his weapons to a mild pfffftt like in the movies rather than the very loud BAP BAP BAP BAP BAP in real life.
Sorry if already posted. I'd post a link but I prefer not to feed the beast. Easy enough to find though.
 
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Former VP candidate Tim Kaine wisely states that if the shooter had a silencer many more would have died. Because, obviously, a silencer would have reduced the sound of his weapons to a mild pfffftt like in the movies rather than the very loud BAP BAP BAP BAP BAP in real life.
Sorry if already posted. I'd post a link but I prefer not to feed the beast. Easy enough to find though.

The parrot only repeats what HRC already said. Roll Eyes


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Former VP candidate Tim Kaine wisely states that if the shooter had a silencer many more would have died. Because, obviously, a silencer would have reduced the sound of his weapons to a mild pfffftt like in the movies rather than the very loud BAP BAP BAP BAP BAP in real life.
Sorry if already posted. I'd post a link but I prefer not to feed the beast. Easy enough to find though.


It would also have allowed his bullets to pass through windows without breaking them, leaving law enforcement completely unable to see the two broken windows at Manadalay Bay...oh wait Roll Eyes
 
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Former VP candidate Tim Kaine wisely states that if the shooter had a silencer many more would have died. Because, obviously, a silencer would have reduced the sound of his weapons to a mild pfffftt like in the movies rather than the very loud BAP BAP BAP BAP BAP in real life.
Sorry if already posted. I'd post a link but I prefer not to feed the beast. Easy enough to find though.

The parrot only repeats what HRC already said. Roll Eyes

Interestingly enough so has the Canadian media. Easy to see where they get their info from.


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It would also have allowed his bullets to pass through windows without breaking them, leaving law enforcement completely unable to see the two broken windows at Manadalay Bay...oh wait Roll Eyes

Couple pages back we'd discussed shooting thru biplane propeller and phase shifting windows while using a bump-fire stock.
 
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I haven't read this whole thread, seeing some conspiratorial questions. Anyone bring up "Parallax View"?
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Thinking outside the envelope. I've got others, they're all better than gambling debts but I'll cool it.


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Thinking outside the envelope. I've got others, they're all better than gambling debts but I'll cool it.
Not to worry. You'll find plenty fans of fiction on the internet.
 
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I do see Paddock was prescribed anti-anxiety meds in June, there's a wild card.


Valium. Perhaps the most widely prescribed medication on the planet. Used also as a muscle relaxant, sleep aid, alcoholism, etc. I think every housewife in America has a bottle of Valium in their medicine cabinets. Not exactly a "wild card".



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The event was about 36 hours ago and it seems that all of Monday was spent by most across the country in a hollowed out shell of sadness.

But by 8:00 last night my wife's book group was in a state of high dudgeon about the guns. She said that the conversation points of "no one needs...why do they have to have...that kind of gun ought to be illegal..." was all they talked about. She remained quiet and left early.

She didn't recall anyone talking about the victims or the rescuers because, wait for it: guns are bad.

It didn't take long did it?

Like Rich, the singer, said: people say that the victims and the rescuers are in their thoughts and prayers, well really do it, really get on your knees and pray". Best thing I've heard on TV since Sunday.


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Valium. Perhaps the most widely prescribed medication on the planet. Used also as a muscle relaxant, sleep aid, alcoholism, etc. I think every housewife in America has a bottle of Valium in their medicine cabinets. Not exactly a "wild card".


Any anti-depressant can be a big problem for some. They can be a catalyst to some already troubled people. If Paddock had enough anxiety to look for help, he was troubled. You'll find a lot of troubled folks here, pick a drug, someone here is struggling with it --

http://survivingantidepressants.org/?_fromLogin=1


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^ Bless their hearts.

At best, it's well intentioned naivety and simple minded wishful thinking. I know some who are just emotional enough / not logical enough that they naturally fall into that line of thinking, whether it's guns, motorcycles, or a hundred other "dangerous things". It's usually the wives of friends, but it's not necessarily a female thing. Basic naivety, IMO.

At best.
 
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