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If this is covered by another post, I apologize.

Years ago a family member was diagnosed with a serious but treatable disease. They are a private person and prefers to not to share medical information with the world. They checked a University site on the net to get information re treatment options etc. Several weeks later, solicitations and advertisements began rolling in via net, email and snail mail. Apparrently their name and the fact that they looked up this info had been shared with the commercial world. I was pissed that the Univ would share that information. I consider that a gross invasion of privacy. (I was unfamiliar about the ins and out of the net at the time).

My employer IT guy told me that my net carrier prob sold the visit record.

If "O" did anything good at all, imho, it was to order the FCC to impose some limits on the carriers in this regard. Now the Repubs, both House and Senate have rejected the start of these limits.

I tried to call our (R)senators. Both apparently don't represent the people. They've made damn sure you cannot call them and get anything other than a busy signal.

Is there any reasonable explaination for the Republican action, other than outright bribes paid in the form of legal campaign contributions by the carrier Lobbyiests? Yes I know, he who has the gold etc, but I consider this an outright betrayal of citizens. It's a loogie hawked right into every citizens face. I'v already decided to try to see if any decent repubs are gonna show up to challenge in the primary. If not, I'll look for a pro gun dem. I'm pissed. If no pro gun dem, I might consider the dark side. If there's a good reason,let's hear it please!
 
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If "O" did anything good at all, imho, it was to order the FCC to impose some limits on the carriers in this regard.

Were said regulations ever imposed?


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News carriers said they were scheduled to go into effect soon. Rep vote was to stop it.
 
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If "O" did anything good at all, imho, it was to order the FCC to impose some limits on the carriers in this regard.

Were said regulations ever imposed?


There were exclusions for certain carriers. Frankly, to the best of my knowledge, this was dead in the water.


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Yes, this is an extremely disappointing turn of events.

In light of this, I installed Opera browser, enabled the VPN feature, and installed HTTPS Everywhere. It's not the total privacy of the Tor browser, but it's pretty damned good. One of these days, I may make the leap to Tor, but I'll need to do a bit more research about it.

Here's a couple of good articles:

How to set up a VPN in 10 minutes for free (and why you urgently need one)

How to encrypt your entire life in less than an hour
 
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That's what I'm asking. Is there a good reason to reject the FCC rule that was scheduled to go into effect soon? May have been an O decree.
 
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As Scott McNeely (the former, and IIRC, founding chairman of Sun Microsystems) wrote back in 1999, you have no privacy. Get over it.
 
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Perhaps this thread?
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/9820018124/p/1

I'm thinking nothingburger...


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Yawn. There has been no privacy on this planet for 30 years or so. People tracking the sites I visit is right up there with grocery customer loyalty programs; so somebody knows I eat Doritos. I also wonder at the accuracy of tracking, since I so often get email to "Erick" and "Victoria." (I think Victoria is youngish based on the clothing and underwear ads.)
 
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Thanks forester. I'm kind of a Luddite and use an apple system. I'd like to have privacy but my whole point is not that. If there's no reasonable explanation, then it's just another example of a political party (repubs) that views you and me and regular citizens with nothing but contempt. Hell I know the dems are a bunch of scumbags who view me with contempt, but I've always believed that The repubs had a few decent folks who were patriots.

Several sites published a list of how each legislator voted and how much they have received in legal bribes (campaign contributions) from just one carrier. Big bucks. Many thousands to Cornyn alone. Of course it's net news and hard to verify. I'm hoping someone can provide more info before I throw my politicians completely under the bus.
 
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OK BBMW, I accept that. This is really about our politicians and how much respect they have for you and me. Apparrently none. Hell, they sure don't wanna hear our opinions based on how easy it is to call them. I can't even get a low level lacky on the phone.
 
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And fredward, everyone knows that! Doesn't mean that some baseline rules cannot be established. This is not soviet russia. Everytime you yawn and accept a screwing, you're just encouraging more loss of rights . When they come to take your guns, I suppose you're going to yawn and say, well, everybody knows that's just how it is.
 
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Thanks stoicone, that's the one . Thanks.
 
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The sneaky shit people do to market you really annoys me. The lack privacy in healthcare is very disturbing. Doctors offices have to go through level after level of security including two factor authentication and answering secret questions, but the insurance company leaves the door open and some thief runs off with the hard drives containing social security numbers, dates of birth, and lots of other personal data. This has happened with Tricare records, numerous times with the VA. OPM had a huge data breach as well. I just assume I am always being filmed and recorded.
 
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Campaign contribution dollars are more important than votes, because the latter can be used to essentially buy the former.

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OK BBMW, I accept that. This is really about our politicians and how much respect they have for you and me. Apparrently none. Hell, they sure don't wanna hear our opinions based on how easy it is to call them. I can't even get a low level lacky on the phone.
 
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take some time and read the EULA on anything ever. you've been giving away this stuff forever.
 
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I'm sure having Schumer as Majority Leader will resolve all these problems, and put a stop to all this marketing frenzy.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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1. The information described in your original post was almost certainly shared by Google, Bing, Facebook or Yahoo, not their ISP.

2. The proposed rules would NOT have stopped ISPs from sharing your information, they would have required a disclosure, like a pop up you have to click to install software and/or a yearly disclosure that you would have thrown in the trash.

3. The proposed rules were never implemented.

4. The proposed rules did not stop Google, Facebook, Bing, Yahoo, etc. from sharing your information...Why you ask? Because they donate heavily to democrats and practically run the DNC.

5. The tech blogs like Gizmodo are massively anti-Trump.
http://gizmodo.com/tag/donald-trump

6. Article linked in other thread to NPR interview of the CEO of a privacy advocacy group and even he was not very concerned about this. Little or nothing will change for consumers.

YMMV



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It seems we are going to always be bombarded with spam of all types. Mad
It's a big part of their business plan it seems.

At least it seems they are trying to target you with somewhat more relevant spam.
For example... They probably know I'm an older Male, and thus don't send me Maxi Pad ads. LOL. So there is that up side! Big Grin



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Why do you think Google has spent $$$$^10000 dollars building search engines, analytics or any of the dozens of other things they create? Of course, Google isn't the only one MicroSoft/Bing, Yahoo and the list goes on. They didn't put in all those expensive server farms so you can lookup gun porn out of the goodness of their heart. There's profit in there even if they won't tell you about it. Who owns YouTube? Google? Yep every kitty video you watch, every Hickok45 or Military Arms video...someone is clicking over a counter and getting ready some targeted content, just-for-you.

Every grocery store and lots of restaurants have 'rewards' cards for their customers so they can 'quantify' what it is they need to stock and promote to you their very special customer.

It's been going on for decades. How old is Google? You think Facebook is inocent? HA!

You want privacy? You better go hide in a cave on a deserted island and leave all your cell phones and other essentials behind.


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