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Authorities have seized more than 550 guns at two Southern California homes and made one arrest after getting a tip that a convicted felon was storing an arsenal.

Sixty-year-old Manuel Fernandez was arrested last week after Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies and state and federal investigators raided his Agua Dulce home.

Officials Monday say the searchers found 432 rifles and handguns, then returned later and found 91 more hidden weapons.


Finally, 30 guns were seized at another home believed linked to an associate of Fernandez who hasn’t returned to the home.

"Detectives also seized computers, cellphones, and hard drives from the residence believed to be involved in the illicit purchase of firearms by the suspect," the sheriff's department said in its release.

Fernandez was booked on suspicion of being a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition and illegally possessing an assault rifle and large-capacity magazines.

He’s free on bond. A call by The Associated Press to his listed phone number rang unanswered Monday.

The Los Angeles Times, citing an unnamed source, reported that the owner of the firearms appears to be a collector as opposed to someone who intends to use the guns for violence.

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What do they do with all of those guns? I hope they are not destroyed....



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What do they do with all of those guns? I hope they are not destroyed....


Unfortunately the guns will probably be destroyed after the trial is over.
 
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Finally, something at least in the realm of an "arsenal" with one of these stories.



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The Los Angeles Times, citing an unnamed source, reported that the owner of the firearms appears to be a collector as opposed to someone who intends to use the guns for violence



never knew the media made a distinction



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I have a friend that lives in Huntington Beach. He has several friends (old timers) that are hoarding 200+ guns. I bet there are far more guns in Cali than the libs would like to believe.



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never knew the media made a distinction
Normally they don't, must be one of those unicorn type reporters... Confusing the shit out of me...


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Word is they got in on a water taffy warrant. Big Grin
 
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never knew the media made a distinction

Normally they don't, must be one of those unicorn type reporters... Confusing the shit out of me...

Manuel Fernandez is Hispanic and thus the LA Times is less inclined to vilify him than if his name were John Smith.




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Finally, something at least in the realm of an "arsenal" with one of these stories.


Normally when I read these stories, I think to myself that "that's nothing, I have more", but this one has me thinking "holy crap, that's a lot of guns."
 
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Finally, a semi-representative use of the word arsenal.

But why focus on the number? The illegal aspects seem to be felon and illicit purchases. The number doesn’t matter.




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Originally posted by Georgeair:
Finally, something at least in the realm of an "arsenal" with one of these stories.


Normally when I read these stories, I think to myself that "that's nothing, I have more", but this one has me thinking "holy crap, that's a lot of guns."


Haha. Same here.
 
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Wow.
This is the first I've heard of them actually taking away guns from actual criminals instead of law abiding citizens.
 
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So what has he been convicted of?
I would like to verify that first.
If he was then game over if not then it was just another excuse for 2nd Amendment tyranny.
 
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Originally posted by Fenris:....Manuel Fernandez is Hispanic and thus the LA Times is less inclined to vilify him than if his name were John Smith.


All he has to do is claim to be here illegally, the State of CA will protect and defend him. Wink




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I wish I had the money to fun that sort of collection!


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He’s free on bond.

If he's a collector and did nothing wrong he will show up for trial and claim his property.
If he's a criminal... he will disappear before trial.



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It’d be interesting to see where he got 500 guns. Something tells me it wasn’t legally.


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It’d be interesting to see where he got 500 guns. Something tells me it wasn’t legally.


Is there a number of guns you have that makes them (obtained) illegal? Confused

I suppose if you have a LOT of ammo (number TBD - varies by state) then you must be doing something illegal too? Eek
 
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What do they do with all of those guns? I hope they are not destroyed....


By the looks of one of the pictures even if you did obtain them legally I don't know if I would want them back. They had them just tossed into the back of a pickup.

They'll have all kinds of nice rub marks on them once they get to wherever they are going.
 
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