Chemical Weapons In Syria

April 06, 2017, 07:58 PM

Elk Hunter

Another case of chemical weapons used on civilians.

And the consensus seems to be that Assad is behind it.

Does anyone have any proof that he is behind it?

Why ignore the possibility/probability that ISIS or one of their affiliated groups are behind it.

It would further convince the world that Assad "did it again", and should be treated as a war criminal.

I have seen, nor heard any evidence of who was behind this latest attack.

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April 06, 2017, 08:07 PM

side_shot

the chemicals were definitely in the county i think they came in from iraq when saddam hussein dumped it on them when we said months in advance we were going to invade his country

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April 06, 2017, 08:08 PM

Trooperdan

This was an aerial attack. I do not believe the rebels have an air force.

April 06, 2017, 08:13 PM

Rightwire

Looks like Trump acted with a cruise missile launch against Syria. News is reporting 50 missiles launched in a limited strike, that seems like a lot.

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April 06, 2017, 08:23 PM

gw3971

Somebody knows where the redline is!

April 06, 2017, 08:24 PM

jer830

Didn't see that happening.

April 06, 2017, 08:25 PM

barndg00

I have not seen or heard anything about what chemical exactly they are referring to. Anyone? If we're talking VX vs HCl there's a big difference. What was used in this attack?

April 06, 2017, 08:25 PM

tatortodd

CNBC is reporting 59 tomahawks launched - link

April 06, 2017, 08:27 PM

gw3971

quote:
Originally posted by barndg00:
I have not seen or heard anything about what chemical exactly they are referring to. Anyone? If we're talking VX vs HCl there's a big difference. What was used in this attack?

Sarin I believe.

April 06, 2017, 08:29 PM

Elk Hunter

quote:
Originally posted by barndg00:
I have not seen or heard anything about what chemical exactly they are referring to. Anyone? If we're talking VX vs HCl there's a big difference. What was used in this attack?

One report I saw mentioned sarin. Some of the victims I saw on TV resembled injuries received by some sort of blistering agent. Mustard maybe?

April 06, 2017, 08:32 PM

MTJbyrd

I just hope our troops on the ground in Syria get out of there fast

April 06, 2017, 08:34 PM

Skins2881

quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
CNBC is reporting 59 tomahawks launched - link

Fox says 60

April 06, 2017, 08:34 PM

snoris

quote:
Originally posted by side_shot:
the chemicals were definitely in the county i think they came in from iraq when saddam hussein dumped it on them when we said months in advance we were going to invade his country

BINGO

April 06, 2017, 08:34 PM

sigfreund

Both nerve gas and chlorine have been used in the region. The article in The Wall Street Journal mentioned symptoms that made me immediately think of nerve gas, but then it went on to say the gas had a foul smell (which nerve agents don’t have based on what I know) and chlorine was specifically mentioned. I believe it would be quite possible to use both types of gas at the same time. If so, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if they were.

April 06, 2017, 08:40 PM

Elk Hunter

quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
Both nerve gas and chlorine have been used in the region. The article in The Wall Street Journal mentioned symptoms that made me immediately think of nerve gas, but then it went on to say the gas had a foul smell (which nerve agents don’t have based on what I know) and chlorine was specifically mentioned. I believe it would be quite possible to use both types of gas at the same time. If so, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if they were.

When I was in CBR school (long ago) we had doctors presenting information regarding the various types of agents. One doctor was describing this nerve agent, said it smelled kind of sweet. I asked how much it took to able to smell it, he quoted some number. I asked how how much it took to kill. Seems the amount to kill was several dozen times less it took to smell it.

Mustard agent has a bad smell.