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Major flooding in China; Update 9-22-2020

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July 14, 2020, 10:21 PM
jimmy123x
Major flooding in China; Update 9-22-2020
I didn't click on the video, just saw that the damn failed in the title on the video. I am sorry for that. I did not read or see that many people died as I didn't see the video. I'm sorry for saying something offensive.

But here, cooties meant germs when I was growing up. Don't touch that, it has cooties.

Here is the definition I've found on the internet, I have personally never heard cooties refer to lice. I always heard it to mean germs/parasites growing up as a kid:

"cootie1or coot·y[ koo-tee ]SHOW IPA
noun plural coot·ies. Informal.
a louse, especially one affecting humans, as the body louse, head louse, or pubic louse.
a child's term for an imaginary germ or disease that one can catch by touching a person who is disliked or socially avoided:
The girls at camp thought the boys had cooties."

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cooties
July 14, 2020, 10:28 PM
parabellum
I don't want to hear your explanations and I damn sure don't want to hear you say that you're posting in threads without knowing the details. I'd ask you just what in the Hell you're doing posting in thread where you don't have the attention span to comprehend the subject but that means you'd try to explain something you shouldn't be doing in the first place in this forum.

You wanna post in a thread? Then, read the damn thing, and as you're going through it, pay particular attention to the tone of my posts. I made one post before you, all of three words, but that should have been sufficient for you to understand that you had better watch what you say in this thread.

I don't want you to post any further in this thread.
July 14, 2020, 11:37 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
I don't want to hear your explanations and I damn sure don't want to hear you say that you're posting in threads without knowing the details. I'd ask you just what in the Hell you're doing posting in thread where you don't have the attention span to comprehend the subject but that means you'd try to explain something you shouldn't be doing in the first place in this forum.

You wanna post in a thread? Then, read the damn thing, and as you're going through it, pay particular attention to the tone of my posts. I made one post before you, all of three words, but that should have been sufficient for you to understand that you had better watch what you say in this thread.

I don't want you to post any further in this thread.


OK.
July 15, 2020, 08:57 AM
parabellum
Were you dropped on your head as a child? What's the last line of that quote, jimmy? Do you have reading comprehension issues?

I just finished telling you to READ threads and then I said DO NOT POST AGAIN IN THIS THREAD, and what do you do? You posted AGAIN.

Moderated Status for one day, jimmy, to get my point across to you, because as sure as I'm sitting here, you'd post in this thread AGAIN.

Goddamn, man. Snap out of it. Read and COMPREHEND my words.
July 15, 2020, 09:29 AM
18Z50
What would the impact of the damn in China failing be?

Social
Financial
Environmental
Global

Any RKI on the site?
July 15, 2020, 09:33 AM
spunk639
Horrible state of affairs, couldn't imagine the fear living there or near that dam.
July 15, 2020, 09:37 AM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by 18Z50:
Any RKI on the site?
I feel like I'm pretty savvy on web acronyms. If you use one I don't know, that means more than a few of the other members don't know it, either.

Let's please use plain English. What is "RKI"?
July 15, 2020, 10:00 AM
esdunbar
quote:
What would the impact of the damn in China failing be?

Considering that more people live in densely populated areas downstream of that damn than live in the entire US, the impacts would be huge.

Production of goods in and around that area would completely halt. I don't know what is made around there, but I've gotta figure it's more than a few things we'd notice no longer being produced.

The human loss of life would be massive I have to figure. Long story short, it's nauseating to even consider what could happen to those people.
July 15, 2020, 10:15 AM
280nosler
quote:
Originally posted by esdunbar:
quote:
What would the impact of the damn in China failing be?

Considering that more people live in densely populated areas downstream of that damn than live in the entire US, the impacts would be huge.

Production of goods in and around that area would completely halt. I don't know what is made around there, but I've gotta figure it's more than a few things we'd notice no longer being produced.

The human loss of life would be massive I have to figure. Long story short, it's nauseating to even consider what could happen to those people.


Over 400 million people live (as in homes) within 2 meter height of nominal flood stage for the Yangtze River. That includes cities of Shanghai, Nanjing, Wuhan and Yangtze. I would not wish that on anyone.
July 15, 2020, 10:17 AM
vinnybass
Those videos look really bad.

The one of the dam shifting seems to indicate it's only a matter of time.

The video of the flooding occurring from all the gates being open seems like it's as bad as if the dam failed completely.

It looks as though the death toll will be staggering based on all the stuff being wiped out.

The dam video states 400 million people live downstream. 400 million. PEOPLE.



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July 15, 2020, 10:20 AM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by 18Z50:
What would the impact of the damn in China failing be?

Social
Financial
Environmental
Global

Any RKI on the site?

Consider the major cities down river: Wuhan (11 mil), Nanjing (8.5 mil) and Shanghai (34 mil), just those population numbers alone are crazy and those don't include the surrounding countryside. Shanghai would be like New Orleans, a port city at the mouth of the river as it enters the sea; Shanghai while robust in its own right, is working to supplant Hong Kong as the international financial-trade center of the country. Export goods production will likely be affected but, not sure how much of that applies to us here, the area around the dam is Hubei which is a major food production center for domestic consumption.

What American's are familiar with (food & language (Cantonese)), is the southern region of Guangzhou (Canton) which is the massive production heart of the country (Hong Kong and Macau sit right off the coast), it's where most of the Chinese immigrants who came to the US originated from. All the regions from Shanghai and Westward is in the central part of the country.
July 15, 2020, 10:28 AM
280nosler
Just so people have a better understanding of water flow - the emergency water discharge from the dam (per second) is 25x more than what flows over the Niagara Falls (per second).
July 15, 2020, 10:40 AM
flesheatingvirus
Yikes. This would be unbelievably bad if the dam failed. Too bad we’ll never get a truthful report on the actual risk or current status from their state run media. We’ll know if it fails, though.

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July 15, 2020, 10:48 AM
Shaql
quote:
The one of the dam shifting seems to indicate it's only a matter of time.


Does anyone know of any analysis done based on high res satellite photos? I'd love to read it.





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July 15, 2020, 12:57 PM
KLGUY
If you look at it on Google maps it does look out of shape, I’m no expert but I can’t imagine a structure so big bending like that.

Maybe it is a image glitch.

Ok, I looked again , there are also some structures to the left standing on land wich also seem crooked, so it probably just a crappy sat image.
July 15, 2020, 01:51 PM
Georgeair
quote:
Originally posted by 18Z50:
Any RKI on the site?


Believe that's Reasonably Knowledgeable Individual, but without the Google I'd have had NFC.



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July 15, 2020, 02:40 PM
Hound Dog
That is tragic.

I despise the Chicomm government, but I feel sorry for the people of China, trapped in a country with an oppressive government.

I despise the North Korean government, but I feel sorry for the people of North Korea, trapped in a country with an oppressive government.

Heck, even at the height of the Cold War, I despised the Soviet govt, yet felt sympathy and empathy for the people under Soviet control.

Making light of this in any way is simply heartless, IMO. The ones who suffer and die won't be the government officials; it will be the helpless people of China, and we all know it.



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July 15, 2020, 02:47 PM
Dakor
quote:
Originally posted by KLGUY:
If you look at it on Google maps it does look out of shape, I’m no expert but I can’t imagine a structure so big bending like that.

Maybe it is a image glitch.

Ok, I looked again , there are also some structures to the left standing on land wich also seem crooked, so it probably just a crappy sat image.

It's a very crappy sat image. If the degree of displacement was as great as it appeared in those images, the latest photos and videos of the dam wouldn't show it so linear.
July 15, 2020, 02:52 PM
ChuckFinley
"he emergency water discharge from the dam (per second) is 25x more than what flows over the Niagara Falls (per second)."

As one of those that has stood alongside Niagra Falls the amount of water there defies human comprehension. 25x that is truly massive.

I would think that the complete failure of this dam, and subsequent funding, would be a level of national catastrophe so drastic that the country would turn inside, eschewing the outside world for nearly a generation as it sorts the repercussions out. Maybe I'm wrong (probably), but this would be a crippling event.




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July 15, 2020, 03:02 PM
LS1 GTO
Holy carp, those people are in a serious world of hurt and devastation.

It is amazing how (if true) the government is not getting the word out to save its own citizens.






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