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Peace through superior firepower |
Terrible situation. Hopefully, critical systems have generator power. I'll be very glad when this hurricane season has finally passed. | |||
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Now in Florida |
We are in Naples. 92% of the county has power but our area seems to be the last to be restored. We evacuated Naples before the storm and went to Orlando. We never lost power there. | |||
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It happens that way sometimes. The crews we sent from MS. are coming home soon, so you can rest assured that it is coming soon. My office took several weeks to get electricity while others had it a week earlier. The metal power pole on top of the office building was bent and needed replacement, a special task. After one hurricane in 1985 every power pole was down for three miles down a local street. Utility crews were stringing wire on the ground to get people back up and then coming in several weeks later with the poles. | |||
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That would be interesting since it was only about 15 years ago that the USN- at the insistence of the Puerto Rican mobs - left PR for good. I think some of them are still trying to understand the concept of unintended consequences, especially those around Roosie Roads. Re the USN helping them now, I can only assume they feel as strongly today about the USN getting out as they did then. We have an obligation to honor their wishes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And it's time that particularly, some of our corporations learned, that when you get in bed with government, you're going to get more than a good night's sleep." - Ronald Reagan | |||
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Shit don't mean shit |
My employer opened a facility there a year or two ago. I work in IT and we have a young man on our team now, about the last 3 months I think. He's got a degree in computer science, good kid, Jorge. He's a software engineer associate. He's a go-getter to boot. I guess now that I know someone who is there I have a little more sympathy for folks who have their lives turned upside down. Maybe I am just getting more sympathetic as I get older. Jorge lives in the NW corner of the island, Aguadilla Pueblo, 00603. He was without power for 7 days with Irma. Not everyone from PR is an undesirable. I hope my co-worker is OK. | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
I spent five years living on that beautiful island and working with some gracious, talented, and generous people. I wonder how many folks who are bad-mouthing Puerto Rico have actually been there. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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A Grateful American |
I started to post earlier, but it came of as "some of my best friends are...." Being both a "military brat" (my mother was married to both a Navy guy and a USAF guy, among the "five"...) and having a career in the USAF myself, I had the privilege of working and being friends of several people from PR. And, I cannot recall ever having cross words or anything negative with any of them, contrary to the various other folks, both foreign and domestic, of and every color in Crayola's 64 color box of goodness. As the bunnyman said, they are Americans, and I do not recall them doing anything of note against the greater majority in the CONUS. And having suffered through a few (OK, 28 storms in Okinawa in a one year) and many in the Florida Panhandle since Eloise in 1975, I understand the issues, but not the extent that these people are facing, getting hit twice in a few weeks, and enduring total devastation. We have the means to help them, and I certainly hope we do the best that we can to mitigate this. The world is watching, and we should be watching and speaking out for them. They are Americans, first... "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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You have e-mail. -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
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Ammoholic |
Long post deleted before posting. I don't know many Puerto Ricans, but I suspect that the vast majority are not undesirable. The same may not be true of their politicians, any more than it is of ours... | |||
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It's pronounced just the way it's spelled |
If you have halfway decent electric utility crews, you should be able to completely rebuild the grid and rewire the whole island in 4-6 months. | |||
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Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. |
Probably not many. When the Navy needed us in RR it was a fight to see who got the orders. I got to travel there a lot and loved every minute of it. PR is in their current situation because they have been ill-served by political leadership on the island and in Washington. However, they are still Americans and deserve the same recovery support that is being provided to Texas and Florida. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I can't fathom 4 to 6 months without electricity. The cities will be unlivable very quickly. I hope they still have a lot of rural areas for kindling and water and whatnot. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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fugitive from reality |
PR was the best kept secrect as a duty station in the Army. I shot against the PR guard shooting team many times. I can only hope they rebuild the right way this time. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
What is the point of kicking the people of Puerto Rico when they're down? Do they not have enough misery right now to suit you? | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
I was there for two years, in a guided missile squadron at Roosevelt Roads. About six years later, I returned for a 2 1/2 year stint as an engineer, working on the design of a new Central Office switching system for ITT. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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IF they can get the material. There's way more to a grid than poles and wire . The lead time on a large power transformer can be over a year . If generators are damaged , all bet's are off . Some things are just not sitting in a warehouse ready to be delivered . If you want to scab it together , yeah they can do it reasonably quickly . If you want to build it back right , it's gonna take time . | |||
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Too clever by half |
I am not optimistic. It will take a complete change in culture, political and social. It's possible they will rise to the occasion, but situations like these present opportunities for even more graft, more corruption, more dependence. It takes a society with an ingrained sense of self reliance, personal responsibility, selflessness, and a moral compass. I fear that's been long since been bled out of PR. "We have a system that increasingly taxes work, and increasingly subsidizes non-work" - Milton Friedman | |||
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We'll rebuild it all nice and shiny and they'll wreck it in a couple years if another storm doesn't beat them to it. | |||
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Husband, Father, Aggie, all around good guy! |
This ^^^ Baby Irma's all over the place. HK Ag | |||
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That rug really tied the room together. |
This could cause SERIOUS civil unrest and riots. Be prepared for the guards of most states sending a detachment of troops to help out. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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