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Lawyers for Jeffrey Epstein were "not satisfied" with the autopsy results



They had their own guy there. In fact, their guy was one of the best in the business.

What's missing is whether or not he as satisfied with the results. Perhaps they aren't satisfied because he disagrees with the findings.


Answer: Billable hours.
 
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Lawyers for Jeffrey Epstein were "not satisfied" with the autopsy results



They had their own guy there. In fact, their guy was one of the best in the business.

What's missing is whether or not he as satisfied with the results. Perhaps they aren't satisfied because he disagrees with the findings.


Answer: Billable hours.


Surely Epstein has (had) these guys on retainer, right? They still get billable hours?


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Surely Epstein has (had) these guys on retainer, right? They still get billable hours?


It depends. Lump sum retainer and billable hours are used until it is exhausted and then more money. I am not familiar with Steptoe and Johnson. Clearly out of my price range. Different prices for different lawyers. Partners charge more than first year associates.
 
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Will there be details in the report on the general health and strength of Epstein's geriatric musculoskeletal system?

Were his hyoid bones easier to fracture because of age-related osteoporosis?

He had to get down on his knees to get enough asphyxiating tension on the bed-sheet loop around his throat, from where it was tied to the bedframe.

He must have thrashed and kicked against the wall with his legs to get that much force on the noose, like a hare thrashing in a snare and fatally breaking its neck.

But then, rabbits as a prey-species have easy-to-fracture spines.


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Maybe the lawyers are afraid they're not going to get paid (or laid) now.
 
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Maybe the lawyers are afraid they're not going to get paid (or laid) now


Doubtful. Lawyers and Prostitutes get their money upfront, contingency lawyers are the exception.
 
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Lawyers and Prostitutes get their money upfront, contingency lawyers are the exception.

They are setting up a wrongful death claim against the .gov. That may well be on a contingency...

A document filed last month by Epstein's lawyers listed his total assets at about $559 million. If his estate successfully wins a wrongful death suit, the disgraced financier could be worth even more.

What happens next with his assets, however, could be "incredibly complicated," David Ring, a Los Angeles-based attorney who represents victims of sexual abuse, told Bloomberg.

"It's going to be a lot of different folks who are going to be battling over this estate and these assets and I hope the victims come out on top. I think they deserve it," he said. "But I don't think the estate is just going to hand it over to them."

https://www.businessinsider.co...in-for-estate-2019-8



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Were his hyoid bones easier to fracture because of age-related osteoporosis?


Doubtful. Male sex under 70, but could be disputed by a recent bone density scan. Ask Michael Baden he will know.
 
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And how will the conspiracy theorists explain this?

Epstein signed will 2 days before suicide, report says

Let's see: not his signature- a forgery; his signature, but coerced to sign; mere coincidence; complete fabrication by the investigators who issued the report because they are part of the conspiracy; the investigators are somehow mistaken, and on and on. Gotta be some kind of explanation for how this was timed with his MURDER.
 
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Lawyers and Prostitutes get their money upfront, contingency lawyers are the exception.

They are setting up a wrongful death claim against the .gov. That may well be on a contingency...

A document filed last month by Epstein's lawyers listed his total assets at about $559 million. If his estate successfully wins a wrongful death suit, the disgraced financier could be worth even more.

What happens next with his assets, however, could be "incredibly complicated," David Ring, a Los Angeles-based attorney who represents victims of sexual abuse, told Bloomberg.

"It's going to be a lot of different folks who are going to be battling over this estate and these assets and I hope the victims come out on top. I think they deserve it," he said. "But I don't think the estate is just going to hand it over to them."

https://www.businessinsider.co...in-for-estate-2019-8


He's dead. How can they sue a dead man? I assume his assets go to named beneficiaries?

Can you sue someone who has no ability to defend themselves? Are they taking the estate to court? If so, aren't they separate entries? Is the estate responsible for a crime that was never adjudicated,?



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The sometimes funny Norm MacDonald said this today:

"a man is a coin, no obverse without reverse. If you like, remember Jeff Epstein as monster, destroying lives with a wicked nonchalance. But, for me , I will remember him as the man who killed Jeff Epstein."


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Norm is always funny. It's just that sometmes, people don't know it.

 
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I wonder who will get the 'portrait' of Bill Clinton in the blue dress???



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He's dead. How can they sue a dead man? I assume his assets go to named beneficiaries?

Can you sue someone who has no ability to defend themselves? Are they taking the estate to court? If so, aren't they separate entries? Is the estate responsible for a crime that was never adjudicated,?

The estate exists as a legal mechanism to pay off the dead man's debts (which includes fines and court awards) and distribute anything left over. No, an estate can't be tried for a crime or put in jail on behalf of a dead man who committed a crime. Yes, you can sue against an estate - and if a lawyer wants to argue that the dead guy isn't there to defend himself, said lawyer can, but its just one argument and will be weighed against all of the arguments and all of the the evidence before the court. You can also trust any opposing lawyers to point out that in this case it's a deliberately self-inflicted problem. If there's any money left over, then the executor or the court will decide how it gets passed on to any named beneficiaries.

This isn't the first guy who left behind a pile of shit when he died, and this certainly isn't the first guy to commit suicide rather than stick around to face a trial or personally take responsibility for whatever are proven to be his actions.
 
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How can they sue a dead man?


Jesse Ventura’s lawsuit continued against Chris Kyle’s estate for “defaming” him in a book.




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I wonder who will get the 'portrait' of Bill Clinton in the blue dress???



You better not be bidding against me when they hold his estate auction! Wink


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How can they sue a dead man?

Because the dead man still has $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
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Our conspiracy theorists are kinda quiet of late. Not too much of a surprise, since the facts of the case are now emerging. Epstein signed his will two days before his death. I would like to hear an explanation for this from someone who is certain that Epstein was murdered.
 
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Well, not certain here but let's wait to see who the beneficiaries are. Wink




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Oh, that's good. I like that. Hey, how 'bout this one- Yes, Epstein did sign his own will, and the shadowy government conspirators knew this, so they decided that if they waited just a couple of days, it would be a great smoke screen for his murder, because everyone would say "Oh, look, he signed his will two days before he died. Well, there ya go. Suicide." So, the conspirators merely took advantage of Epstein signing his will,

Huh? Huh? How's that for devil's advocate?
 
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