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The protesters are cracking me up. They haven't read it, either, they just parroting stupid phrases mindlessly.
 
Posts: 17121 | Location: Lexington, KY | Registered: October 15, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The democrats are in a full out panic. Not because they are afraid the tax bill will fail the American people, they are afraid it will succeed. They simply CANNOT allow Trump to have a victory; they cannot allow the American people to prosper under Trump's leadership. Doing so will directly attack and undermine the "failure" narrative they have been feeding their ignorant disciples. They could care less about this country. They want to retain their power over us, and keeping Americans poor and dependent on the government is how they do it.
 
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The democrats are in a full out panic. Not because they are afraid the tax bill will fail the American people, they are afraid it will succeed. They simply CANNOT allow Trump to have a victory; they cannot allow the American people to prosper under Trump's leadership. Doing so will directly attack and undermine the "failure" narrative they have been feeding their ignorant disciples. They could care less about this country. They want to retain their power over us, and keeping Americans poor and dependent on the government is how they do it.


Well Said.



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The democrats are in a full out panic.....They could care less about this country. They want to retain their power over us, and keeping Americans poor and dependent on the government is how they do it.


That needs a repeat. (bolding mine, hope you don't mind)




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I am really getting use to this winning thing.....thank you Mr. President!!
 
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I am really getting use to this winning thing.....thank you Mr. President!!


Good One!

Like he once said..."We are going to WIN, so much....You may get tired of it". LOL.

Love to see the Libtards/Demo's pissing their pants over this.
 
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with Senator Bob Corker being the sole Republican holdout.


'sole Rhino traitor' sounds more accurate.


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I just saw our Montana Senator - a member of the minority party - bloviating on the 10:00 news regarding the Tax Reform Bill. He was whining because he didn't have a chance to read the 500+ bill prior to voting. (as if he'd vote in support of it.) He was play acting like he was really pissed.
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Voting on a bill without reading all n-hundred pages? That's SOP for Congress persons.



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Tester is just another soon to be replaced old Democrat. At least if the people of Montana have ANY sense at all.


I sure hope so. Most Montanan's do, but we still have Butte, Missoula and few libtards in Kalispell that carry a lot of sway.
 
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That is what he always plays. Angry buzz cut High School Football couch.


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Tester is just another soon to be replaced old Democrat. At least if the people of Montana have ANY sense at all.


I sure hope so. Most Montanan's do, but we still have Butte, Missoula and few libtards in Kalispell that carry a lot of sway.


Don't forget Bozeman!


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Tester is just another soon to be replaced old Democrat. At least if the people of Montana have ANY sense at all.
As someone who absolutely loves your state, I truly hope you can unseat this clown and send someone good back to Washington.


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Originally posted by Brett257:....I have little faith in large corporations and their leadership to act in a way that benefits America first, and them second.


And you greater confidence that liberals in congress will spend your money in the best interest of the people and not on themselves and their cronies?


I have very little confidence in anyone in government. I'm absolutely for tax cuts, but I think those framing this as the answer to sending jobs overseas may be disappointed.

I support any attempt to lower taxes, because who better to make decisions about how to use money than the individual who earns it?
 
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Originally posted by pbslinger:

Possibly all along all we had to do to keep American companies from going overseas was to reduce the corporate tax rate. Maybe its too late but if we'd have done that 30 years ago. I've concluded the powers that be including globalists want our jobs to go overseas or they'd have prevented the exodus. Spread the wealth and all that.


You may be right. My concern with the corporate tax cut is that corporations may take their tax cut and continue to send jobs overseas. Executives may use increased profits for compensation and stock buybacks instead of increasing the number of jobs available in these United States.

I have little faith in large corporations and their leadership to act in a way that benefits America first, and them second.


Lowering corporate taxes wasn't going to prevent jobs from going overseas. With fast transportations, audio/video communications, and the internet, the global economy has given corporations easy access to cheap labor across the world.

Brett257 is correct that large corporations aren't going to act to benefit America first. On the other hand, lowering the corporate tax rate will allow corporations to realize profits inside the US instead of keeping the money overseas in order to avoid tax exposure. Without the lower tax rates, they're not going to bring the money into the US. Without the money in the US, there's no way for the money to be invested and spent in the US.



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Brett257 is correct that large corporations aren't going to act to benefit America first.


This brings back memories of Econ 101, so many years go. (Mr. Will Gordon!) "The goal of any corporation is to make money for its shareholders. Period." If you make a good product, or serve people well, or keep people employed, well that's just gravy. But the GOAL is to make money for the shareholders.

Harsh reality.




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I would be interested to see how many congress critters file for property tax abatements every year....my guess is all of them.
 
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I really wish they'd pass a true tax reform bill.

Get rid of all the loopholes and exemptions (other than dependant spouse and minor children for individuals). Flat tax, marginal rates (as we have now) or a straight-forward formula--I don't care. A cutoff at the low end and a ceiling at the high end.

Taxation is onerous enough without politicians using the tax code as leverage to their own ends Mad



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Oh, hell, that was just the version that existed five hours before the vote. I'm sure he got every bit as much time as his Republican counterparts did to read the final version. Besides, as Pushing Turtle pointed out, every Senator will get a chance to read and vote on whatever the final, final bill will be that comes out of the House-Senate conference.


Members of Congress and Senate don't usually read the Bills, their staff does and tells them what's in it.
 
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I really wish they'd pass a true tax reform bill.

Get rid of all the loopholes and exemptions (other than dependant spouse and minor children for individuals). Flat tax, marginal rates (as we have now) or a straight-forward formula--I don't care. A cutoff at the low end and a ceiling at the high end.

Taxation is onerous enough without politicians using the tax code as leverage to their own ends Mad


Myself and others had their jobs outsourced long before "corporate taxes were exorbitant", so I am trying to grasp how this so-called tax cut will help me (I am at the low end of middle income). Over the last fifty years, ALL of my tax deductions have been taken away and given to the wealthy and corporations. Why is that?


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I really wish they'd pass a true tax reform bill.

Get rid of all the loopholes and exemptions (other than dependant spouse and minor children for individuals). Flat tax, marginal rates (as we have now) or a straight-forward formula--I don't care. A cutoff at the low end and a ceiling at the high end.
Yet I do not understand nor agree with this reasoning. Every single dollar, regardless who makes it or what their net worth is, should be taxed exactly alike. Doing otherwise is simply immoral in my eyes. Taxing earnings is also immoral in my eyes regardless of one's social standing. I have long advocated for a complete repeal of the federal income tax scam (along with a number of other taxes) in favor of a consumption tax on every dollar spent in the country, regardless who's spending it. Even those here illegally pay with that scheme. Simple, straightforward, and everyone has skin in the game. It also would make it politically unpopular/dangerous to every politician to try and raise that tax rate.
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Taxation is onerous enough without politicians using the tax code as leverage to their own ends Mad
On this we are in complete agreement. We must remove from the hands of the white collar criminals on capital hill the means to line their own pockets, and those of their cronies, while fleecing the American taxpayers.


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