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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Has Houston surpassed Chicago for 3rd largest city yet?

Not yet. Chicago is 2.7 million and Houston is 2.3 million.

Of course, Houston's population is growing and Chicago's population is change is either flat or shrinking (depending on the source). I anticipate Houston will pass Chicago within 5 years.

I would be great to go to the Chicago West side and the south side and sign up 400,001 residents to send for relocation to Houston. we could also channel some near north residents to go with.
Win,Win!

I personally don't care what happens, as the voters there have decided this is what they want. Even Moody's has warned them....

Moody’s Warns Illinois Raising Taxes Causes Rich to Leave

Moody’s Investor Services warned Illinois’ Democratic governor’s that his plan to more than double income taxes on the rich could create a bigger state deficit if they leave.

Democrat J.B. Pritzker successfully ran for governor of Illinois on a campaign that it was “Not Impossible” for a state with a $7,871,602,484.87 payment backlog to 91,099 vendors and the worst credit rating in the nation, to cut taxes while implementing a $15 minimum wage, expanding education and healthcare, and creating more jobs.

With Illinois already having the 2nd highest effective property tax rate of 2.32 percent and the 5th highest average sales tax of 8.64 percent, Pritzker was expected on February 20 to ask both Democratic-controlled houses of the state legislature to dump a 3.75 percent flat-rate state income tax for a progressive Fair Tax that would more than double the state income tax rate to 7.65 percent on incomes over $225,000.

Article: https://www.americanthinker.co..._rich_to_leave_.html

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
I think they will run out of money before they run out of people.

They have run out of money.

Every time I see stuff like this it reminds me of reading "Who is John Gault" the first time.

Illinois Gov. Pritzker's Rookie Mistake: Hiking Taxes On The Rich

Illinois: The state of Illinois has struggled for years with its finances. As with other troubled states, it boils down to a simple formula: Too much spending, especially on government employee pensions, and not enough revenue. Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker thinks a tax hike on the rich will solve the problem. It won't.

On Friday, the state revealed that its budget deficit was $400 million larger than expected, roughly $3.2 billion. That's not the worst of it. Illinois' public pension agency owes $234 billion, or about $18,281 per citizen, but has only funded about 40% of that amount. Pritzker, of course, blames former Gov. Bruce Rauner. But Illinois' fiscal ruin has been a group effort.

Pritzker ran for office in 2018 promising more spending on schools, health care and jobs, while cutting taxes and imposing a new $15 minimum wage.

Well, the state is spending a lot more, but tax cuts are now off the agenda. Instead, Pritzker will propose to double taxes paid by those with income over $225,000, the so-called rich, to 7.65% from 3.75% now.

Sorry, governor, but a new report from Moody's Investors Service says that's a rookie move. Moody's bluntly predicts Pritzker's higher taxes will lead to even more high-income people joining the mass exodus to other states, making the state's fiscal crunch even worse.
Tax Hikes On The Rich

As Moody's noted, "the population loss and relatively sluggish employment trends suggest a degree of economic vulnerability that poses a conundrum: revenue growth from existing sources will be too tepid to offset escalating fixed costs, while new taxes could threaten to increase the outflow of residents."

In a recent piece, IBD focused on New York's ills, which, no surprise, are similar to Illinois' — high taxes, a huge out-migration of wealthy taxpayers, massive pension liabilities, chronic deficits. But, as we noted, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo wisely ruled out raising taxes on the rich. "God forbid if the rich leave," he said.

Illinois: The Wealthy Leave

As Moody's noted, Illinois lost some 544,541 residents to other states from 2013 to 2018, or 4.2% of its 2013 population. The people leaving represent wealth, skills, education, know-how and, often, local roots. Illinois is watching the only thing that can save it from bankruptcy — its most talented people — flee to other states where taxes, corruption and incompetence aren't so bad.

Worse, the state Senate approved a hike in the minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2025. That will lead to thousands of low-skilled, untrained workers losing jobs. A minimum wage, after all, is a tax on hiring low-wage workers.

Pritzker's call to raise taxes on successful residents and on those at the bottom is a huge unforced error, one that shows his lack of basic economic understanding.

https://www.investors.com/poli...pritzker-taxes-rich/

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Originally posted by captain127:

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Originally posted by Klusk2:
The city of Chicago is the problem, cut out that cancer and the rest of the state is fairly conservative.

Could say the same thing about New York State versus New York City

Any state, any city.

3 states to either get out of or never move in to. Illinois, N.Y. and Cal. All hopeless liberal sewers.

Brilliant: Now, there will be even fewer jobs in Illinois.

Illinois Doubles Minimum Wage To $15 An Hour

As if Illinois sky-high taxes, outsize cost of living and teetering public pension fund weren't enough reasons for people and business to flee the state (it suffered record population loss in 2018, the fifth straight year of declines), newly inaugurated Democratic Gov. JB Pritzker - heir to the Pritzker fortune - signaled Thursday that he would sign a bill to double Illinois minimum wage from $8.25 to $15 by 2025 after it passed both houses of the state legislature.

As the Daily Caller reported, the bill will raise the state minimum wage incrementally to $9.25 on Jan. 1, 2020, then to $10 an hour the following July, and it will continue to increase by $1 a year until 2025.



JB Pritzker

"Phasing in the minimum wage over the next six years will put $6,300 a year into the pockets of nearly a quarter of our state’s workforce and billions of dollars into local economies in every corner of our state," Pritzker said in a statement.

Of course, while fighting economic equality sounds like laudable goal, minimum wage hikes ignore the fact that by raising costs, employers will be incentivized to hasten their adoption of automation, which, as McKinsey warned in a study published back in 2017, is expected to kill 800 million jobs by 2030.

Illinois' wage hikes are among the most extreme being adopted by US states in 2019.

Pritzker's decision to sign the bill comes after his predecessor, Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner, vetoed a similar proposal back in 2017.

To be sure, Illinois won't be the first state to reach a $15 minimum wage. That honor will likely go to California, which is expected to adopt a $15 minimum wage in 2022. Massachusetts is set to have a $15 minimum wage in 2023 and New Jersey in 2024. New York’s minimum wage will eventually hit $15 through a series of increases tied to inflation. Cities like New York City and Seattle have already caved to unions demands - pushed by the "Fight for $15" initiative - and hiked minimum wages independently.

In fact, a study of Seattle's minimum wage hikes found that, contrary to the city council's stated intentions, the decision to raise wages actually had an adverse impact on the city's poor by killing thousands of jobs.

https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/f...PM.png?itok=BG2A_6Qj

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Prickster in sweats/athletic gear is appropriately misleading.

The big problem is that all those people fleeing the high-tax states come to live in the low-tax ones and bring their Liberal ideas with them. I wish they'd stay where they are--they are ruining my adopted state (Texas).

flashguy

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I wish they'd stay where they are--they are ruining my adopted state (Texas).

The Republic of Texas should once again declare independence.

Born and raised in Chicago area till I turned 22. Left and never looked back. My parents retired to Florida soon thereafter. About the only thing I miss from there are the friends I grew up with.

I have found equally good pizza here in NC, and in the process, discovered BBQ.

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Originally posted by flashguy:
The big problem is that all those people fleeing the high-tax states come to live in the low-tax ones and bring their Liberal ideas with them. I wish they'd stay where they are--they are ruining my adopted state (Texas).

flashguy

They're starting to ruin places such as AZ, TX and FL who are seeing massive amounts of liberal fucks flee there from CA, IL and NY/NJ...

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"Phasing in the minimum wage over the next six years will put $6,300 a year into the pockets of nearly a quarter of our state’s workforce and billions of dollars into local economies in every corner of our state," Pritzker said in a statement.

How dumb is that son of a bitch? Does he not realize that the cost of wage increases incurred by business will merely be passed to the customer and everything else will go up in price? That will make $15 in 6 years what $9 is today...

He also wants to double the salaries of his personal staff with his own money. So his COS will be making 300K per years , 150 of which will come out of his own pocket.

this just in from 20 miles away
https://qconline.com/news/loca...c9-793e64edf4eb.html

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how soon before illinois is empty ?

About the same time that Mexico is empty...

The plan is to take over at the Federal level and funnel money to these bankrupt cities/states

How long before they go after the old people too?

Illinois Governor Signs Most Permissive Abortion Law In The Nation, Legalizes Abortion 'Until Birth'

Illinois governor JB Pritzker signed the nation's most permissive abortion bill into law Wednesday, as part of an effort to make abortion a "fundamental right" in the state.

The legislature passed the sweeping abortion bill last month in a whirlwind session that saw massive tax hikes and huge expansions in government in addition to this most recent abortion bill.

As The Daily Wire reported then, Pritzker's landmark abortion bill repeals the state's ban on "partial birth abortions," legalizing the procedure all the way through pregnancy and up until the moment of birth. The bill utterly ignores the concept of viability, a particularly shocking development given that most states currently passing abortion-related regulations are greatly restricting the practice, not expanding it.

The bill also removes licensing requirements for medical professionals conducting abortions, mandates that all insurance providers within the state pay for abortions in full — even Christian health-share insurance options — and permanently repeals protections for doctors and other medical professionals who refuse to take part in performing abortions. It also strips away any remaining licensing and inspection requirements for abortion clinics in the state — even though several have been targeted for unsafe practices — and repeals penalties for providing abortion services without a license.

Worse, the bill changes the legal language of the state's bevy of laws on "reproductive rights" in an effort to ensure that abortion is treated as a "fundamental right" by the Illinois constitution and legal code. Without any specifications on what constitutes a "fundamental right," it is likely only a matter of time before the new law is used to challenge existing parental notification laws and mandatory reporting laws.

The ACLU has already indicated that it will use the new bill to challenge any remaining abortion restrictions in Illinois.

Pritzker accepted accolades for his progressive bill at a signing ceremony Thursday morning.

"Today we proudly proclaim that in this state, we trust women," Pritzker said, according to CNN. "And in Illinois we guarantee as a fundamental right a woman's right to choose."

The law “ensures that women’s rights in Illinois do not hinge on the fate of Roe v. Wade or the whims of an increasingly conservative Supreme Court in Washington,” Pritzker added.


“The governor and the Democratic supermajorities who fast-tracked this legislation have created a new ‘death penalty’ in Illinois, with no possibility of appeal, for viable unborn preemies,” Peter Breen, Vice President and Senior Counsel of Illinois' Thomas More Society, which fought the bill, told reporters in a statement Thursday. “This act is barbarous. Its definition of ‘viability’ expressly excludes many babies who today live and thrive when born premature - these babies now have zero legal rights or protections, under this law."

“Governor Pritzker showed Illinois residents today that his gubernatorial record will be no different than Governor Rauner's," Mary Kate Knorr, spokeswoman for Illinois Right to Life Action, said at a press conference held in conjunction with Pritzker's signing ceremony. "It's a tale as old as time. Illinois politicians are more concerned with pandering to cash-wielding progressives and Chicago media outlets than they are with representing the people of our state. Pritzker doesn't care what the people of Illinois want, nor does he care that abortion takes a human life.”

The law's provisions go into effect immediately.

https://www.dailywire.com/news...ortion-emily-zanotti

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Originally posted by chellim1:

Illinois Governor Signs Most Permissive Abortion Law In The Nation, Legalizes Abortion 'Until Birth'

I say this is Prickster trying to create an abortion tourism industry for Illinois. How to tax those non-residents next in mind.