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A little off the wall, but it would seem to me you could somehow, make the separate apartment/duplex living spaces on the second level, into one space. Same idea for the lower garage area, turning it into a super sized, 4 door garage... Now the question, how feasible/practical/cost effective? I have not seen the property to understand how it is currently built, and have little understanding or experience with major home renovation.

The place has been on the market for a good amount of time, so if a lowish quick cash offer could get it sold, and what I might like to do, feasible, I figured why not ask SF for some sound advice. Thanks.


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Quick answer, yes, anything is possible. You might have to examine the structure a bit to determine how though.

A lot of times these places actually were single units that were split by building a wall. If so removing the wall and doing some refinish work will bring them back as a whole.




 
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Quick answer, yes, anything is possible.



It's only a matter of money. Big Grin

The way it's shaped, I doubt the wall running front to back is load bearing. With it being a duplex it may be a fire wall.


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Given the way the roof is constructed (i.e. open gables on both ends), my 'bet' would be that the front and rear walls carry all the roof load of the roof, and all the interior walls would be non-load bearing. If that's the case, the upper story could likely be made into one large room rather simply. Can't tell in the pic if the lower story is masonry or not. If so, the walls separating the garages may also be masonry and provide support to the upper story. Even if the lower story is not masonry, the interior garage walls may still provide support. You may need a contractor to render an opinion on that issue.


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The duplex woudl be simple enough.
Get the existing floorplan.

Find out what are internal load bearing walls, then figure out what you want to do with the bathroom(s) and Kitchen to eliminate them, or repurpose them.

For example, if each unit has a kitchen and one bath, you might tak out one kitchen and cap all plumbing, and keep both baths.

You might make the one kitchen a "Master bath" and keep or eliminate one of the existing two bathrooms.

Maybe the washer/dryer is downstairs, and you turn one kitchen into a utility/laundry room.

Things like that. And that would not be too costly.

Complete interior remodel, to include moving walls to generate an ideal or optimal layout might be more expensive, but the value of the property and the improvements may make a good investment, or it may be more that the value added, but what you want and can afford.

The downstairs would be fairly easy, the partition walls can be removed as likly posts and othe load bearing are already in place, and it is unlikly it is simple 2x4 on 16 centers providing loading. Post and joists and beams are more likley.

If you like the place, the location and have the means to do this, I would certainly find a good contractor to take a look and give you feedback.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes. Smile




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Quick answer, yes, anything is possible.



It's only a matter of money. Big Grin

The way it's shaped, I doubt the wall running front to back is load bearing. With it being a duplex it may be a fire wall.


As a contractor I have to agree with this...


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From the visible window placement it would seem that the 2 units are mirror images of each other. Economics would probably place all the plumbing together in the middle, so the kitchens and bathrooms would probably be all in that part of the structure, with the living/dining rooms and bedrooms at the outer ends. Maybe combine the 2 kitchens into one big one? Keep the 2 bathrooms?a Just a guess, of course.

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4 door garage, you could have a motorcycle room... a gun room, cigar room, and a movie screen room, or combine them into one mega man cave room, all you need is a urinal, a bucket and a keg fridge...



 
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Pull all the toys out, 10+ yard private indoor shooting range... (drooooolllll)




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The idea of a big open garage below would be attractive to me.
The weird floor plan and unattractive upstairs would be a no go for my wife.
Guess who would win?


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10+ yard private indoor shooting range... (drooooolllll)


I shoot diagonally across my 2-1/2 car garage, it is 31 feet from the shooting line to the target face.
I would guess a diagonal across that building is more like 70 feet, so shall we say 20 yards for certain, perhaps 25? A good bullet trap and you would be in business.
 
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Thanks fellas. Took a look at it, and kinda like it. There is a neighbor a bit close on the LH side, with a fenced back yard... Gonna go back, and see if that means a lot of barking dogs.

4 bays just to my self, and a shooting range... WAY ahead of you guys! Truth be told, I have been looking for a "garage" home, a converted service station (with a lift of course) in a good location for forever - even a pole barn with just a head, shower, sink, and a stove would be perfect... Perfect.


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Given the way the roof is constructed (i.e. open gables on both ends), my 'bet' would be that the front and rear walls carry all the roof load of the roof, and all the interior walls would be non-load bearing. If that's the case, the upper story could likely be made into one large room rather simply. Can't tell in the pic if the lower story is masonry or not. If so, the walls separating the garages may also be masonry and provide support to the upper story. Even if the lower story is not masonry, the interior garage walls may still provide support. You may need a contractor to render an opinion on that issue.


This sums up my non-expert opinion. Although, the roof line changes at the back of the house. Addition or what? That may complicate things.

Seems like a good rental unit. Is it really worth it to convert it to single family?


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...all you need is a urinal, a bucket and a keg fridge...

This literally made me LOL. My wife came in to see what I was laughing at. Big Grin
 
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Great idea! But, half of that basement is screaming MAN CAVE!!!


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Real estate prices in other areas make me cry. I would have bought it yesterday.
 
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Real estate prices in other areas make me cry. I would have bought it yesterday.


I know... That home would go for $???,??? in your neck of the woods? How about this $1700 sf Cape Cod beauty, sitting on over 3/4 ac - asking price $53 sq/ft. I'm surprised it's not sold yet, and I think I want to go see it, checkbook in hand.



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That home would go for $???,??? in your neck of the woods?


The asking price might get you a lot.
 
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Real estate prices in other areas make me cry. I would have bought it yesterday.


I know... That home would go for $???,??? in your neck of the woods? How about this $1700 sf Cape Cod beauty, sitting on over 3/4 ac - asking price $53 sq/ft. I'm surprised it's not sold yet, and I think I want to go see it, checkbook in hand.



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Well, I didn't see an airport or motor sports track anywhere nearby, but there is a large rail yard a little more than 4 miles away. I believe that is a church across the road from it.

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Geeeez, a one car garage would sell for that where I live......yes just the garage, no house..... I'd buy it, leave it alone, keep the garages and rent out the apartments.....
 
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