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The demise of California
April 16, 2018, 09:35 AM
bendableThe demise of California
Denver,Phoenix,Texas and Portland natives can tell you what the answer to all of California's problems is,
relocation , relocation relocation
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April 16, 2018, 09:40 AM
mark_aquote:
Originally posted by ronnied316:
Going up to Washington state.
R316, good luck with your move. Washington is a beautiful state.
Unfortunately, from my perspective it is California light. But still, a step in the right direction.
April 16, 2018, 09:52 AM
chellim1The devil is always in the details...
I don't think the supporters of The Jefferson movement have any desire to be part of the San Francisco bay area:
Splitting California in 3 would be different. That’s the only sure thing
https://www.sfchronicle.com/po...fferent-12833111.php
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor April 16, 2018, 12:39 PM
Il CattivoYeah, but that is where the devil pops his nasty little head up. If you make NorCal the state in the map above, the Bay Area will wind up running it into the ground in much the same way that Chicago is running Illinois into the ground or that Las Vegas is running Nevada into the ground. Leave all the big coastal cities (or at least SF and LA, minus the San Fernando Valley) together.
April 16, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jimbo54quote:
Originally posted by mark_a:
quote:
Originally posted by ronnied316:
Going up to Washington state.
R316, good luck with your move. Washington is a beautiful state.
Unfortunately, from my perspective it is California light. But still, a step in the right direction.
The Seattle/Tacoma corridor for sure is liberal and progressive. The rest of the state is pretty conservative especially east of the Cascades.
Jim
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April 16, 2018, 12:51 PM
DSgrousequote:
Originally posted by bendable:
Denver,Phoenix,Texas and Portland natives can tell you what the answer to all of California's problems is,
relocation , relocation relocation
Very true, after they relocate the immediately set about turning their new town to the previous shithole. I kid you not, i have had discussions with cali parents in portland 1990s and seattle 2000s about before school care and after school care not being free or properly subsidized for the right people.
April 16, 2018, 04:39 PM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Yeah, but that is where the devil pops his nasty little head up. If you make NorCal the state in the map above, the Bay Area will wind up running it into the ground in much the same way that Chicago is running Illinois into the ground or that Las Vegas is running Nevada into the ground. Leave all the big coastal cities (or at least SF and LA, minus the San Fernando Valley) together.
Yep. It wouldn't be enough to split it that way. Both LA and SF need to be in the same entity, or their influence will still be felt where it shouldn't be.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth