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Denver,Phoenix,Texas and Portland natives can tell you what the answer to all of California's problems is,

relocation , relocation relocation





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Going up to Washington state.


R316, good luck with your move. Washington is a beautiful state.

Unfortunately, from my perspective it is California light. But still, a step in the right direction.
 
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The devil is always in the details...

I don't think the supporters of The Jefferson movement have any desire to be part of the San Francisco bay area:




Splitting California in 3 would be different. That’s the only sure thing
https://www.sfchronicle.com/po...fferent-12833111.php


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Yeah, but that is where the devil pops his nasty little head up. If you make NorCal the state in the map above, the Bay Area will wind up running it into the ground in much the same way that Chicago is running Illinois into the ground or that Las Vegas is running Nevada into the ground. Leave all the big coastal cities (or at least SF and LA, minus the San Fernando Valley) together.
 
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Originally posted by ronnied316:
Going up to Washington state.


R316, good luck with your move. Washington is a beautiful state.

Unfortunately, from my perspective it is California light. But still, a step in the right direction.


The Seattle/Tacoma corridor for sure is liberal and progressive. The rest of the state is pretty conservative especially east of the Cascades.

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Posts: 6828 | Location: The right side of Washington State | Registered: September 14, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Denver,Phoenix,Texas and Portland natives can tell you what the answer to all of California's problems is,

relocation , relocation relocation


Very true, after they relocate the immediately set about turning their new town to the previous shithole. I kid you not, i have had discussions with cali parents in portland 1990s and seattle 2000s about before school care and after school care not being free or properly subsidized for the right people.
 
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Yeah, but that is where the devil pops his nasty little head up. If you make NorCal the state in the map above, the Bay Area will wind up running it into the ground in much the same way that Chicago is running Illinois into the ground or that Las Vegas is running Nevada into the ground. Leave all the big coastal cities (or at least SF and LA, minus the San Fernando Valley) together.
Yep. It wouldn't be enough to split it that way. Both LA and SF need to be in the same entity, or their influence will still be felt where it shouldn't be.

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