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California's smoggy reputation appears to be deserved: Six of the USA's 10 cities with the worst air pollution are in the Golden State, according to a new report.

Bakersfield, Calif., again holds the dubious distinction of having the USA's most days of highly polluted air, based on data from 2013-2015, the American Lung Association’s annual “State of the Air” report released Wednesday found.

In addition to the worst spikes of short-term pollution — led by Bakersfield — the report also lists the cities with the worst overall year-round pollution — led by Visala/Hanford, Calif.— and the worst ozone pollution, led by the Los Angeles/Long Beach area.

California's soaring population and topography allow air pollution to overcome the state's strict environmental laws, said Paul Billings of the American Lung Association. The boom in people brings with it an increase in cars and trucks on the roads, and many of those people live in valley and basins, right where pollution tends to settle.

Nearly year-round sunny skies also don't help: Those picture-perfect days are a major factor in high levels of ozone pollution, he added.

The state would be far worse off without its strict laws on tailpipe pollution and eliminating coal-fired power plants. "They've done more than any other state to counteract air pollution," Billings said.

Overall, the report is a mixture of good and bad news: While year-round pollution has improved, short-term spikes of intensely polluted air have increased.

"While most of the nation has much cleaner air quality than even a decade ago, many cities reported their highest number of unhealthy days since the report began" 18 years ago, it found.

Some 125 million Americans nationwide live with unhealthful levels of air pollution, the report said, placing them at risk for premature death and other serious health effects such as lung cancer, asthma attacks, cardiovascular damage and developmental and reproductive harm.

"Even with continued improvement, too many people in the United States live where the air is unhealthy for them to breathe," the report said.

Only six metro areas recorded no days when pollution reached unhealthy levels, according to the report: Burlington, Vt.; Honolulu; Wilmington, N.C.; Fort Myers / Naples, Fla.; Melbourne, Fla., and Elmira, N.Y.

Billings said he's concerned about Trump's plans to slash the Environmental Protection Agency's budget. "We have to keep the environmental cop on the beat," he said.

Trump's budget proposal contains a 31% cut to the agency, including weakening or eliminating the Clean Air Act, which the report says has been the most important tool in the fight for healthy air by driving emission reductions for more than 47 years.

“Everyone has a fundamental right to breathe healthy air," said Harold P. Wimmer, the president and CEO of the American Lung Association said.



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But what about all of the alternative energy and carbon credits? Should the pricks (environmentalists and celebrities) have the lowest pollution in the country and practice what they preach?


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No way man...



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I grew up in Fresno. Air quality was horrid. I remember my first trip to LA back in the late 70's, early 80's. The smog layer you could see when we came out from the grapevine was impressive.

I'm glad I don't live there any more.

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California's soaring population and topography allow air pollution to overcome the state's strict environmental laws, said Paul Billings of the American Lung Association.


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But what about all of the alternative energy and carbon credits? Should the pricks (environmentalists and celebrities) have the lowest pollution in the country and practice what they preach?


I have posted before, currently the largest solar power plant in the US is Ivanpah, in the Mojave Deseret in So Cal (mostly funded by the US taxpayer), designed to save the planet from evil electricity production. It produces only 2/3 of the expected power (meaning its power costs 50% more than expected). It has natural gas backup generators for when the sun doesn't shine. But, but, but, when those generators are running they emit enough CO2 the facility had to register as a gross polluter. (Also, the 3500 acres of mirrors has significantly damaged the local flora and fauna.) All this is typical California thinking.




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It's a topography issue. Wind comes in from the ocean and forces the pollution inland. Mountain ranges on the Eastern half of the state keeps a pocket of air at it's base and in the basins. A high altitude layer of super dense air keeps the pollution from dispersing upwards.

The worse cities in the state are sparsely populated agricultural areas that have particularly bad topography. Los Angeles and San Francisco are both heavily populated with some of the same topography issues.
 
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Also, if you look at CA on Google Earth or similar, you'll notice parts are hugely industrial, especially around LA.

People usually don't realize how big the petrochemical industry is in SoCal. They drill for oil even now in urban LA. And there are vast refineries.

One of the reason that CA developed it's overarching air pollution regulations is because the really needed it. They had turned their air quality to shit.
 
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Bay Area drivers pollute into the San Joaquin valley, which floats down the valley to Fresno and Bakersfield.....and sits there. Oddly enough, when SMOG Check was introduced, car owners in the valley has more stringent requirements that Bay Area car owners. Then regulators determined that Bay Area cars were the source of large percentages of valley smgo.

Bako and Fresno are screwed topographically. In LA, near the coast ($$$$), it's beautiful. However, you look east and north toward the mountains, and you see the smog.

Utah suffers from inversion layers in the winter.


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Bay Area drivers pollute into the San Joaquin valley, which floats down the valley to Fresno and Bakersfield.....and sits there. Oddly enough, when SMOG Check was introduced, car owners in the valley has more stringent requirements that Bay Area car owners. Then regulators determined that Bay Area cars were the source of large percentages of valley smgo.

Bako and Fresno are screwed topographically. In LA, near the coast ($$$$), it's beautiful. However, you look east and north toward the mountains, and you see the smog.

Utah suffers from inversion layers in the winter.


Denver has the same problem, it sits in the Platte River valley.




 
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Originally posted by Russ59:
Bay Area drivers pollute into the San Joaquin valley, which floats down the valley to Fresno and Bakersfield.....and sits there. Oddly enough, when SMOG Check was introduced, car owners in the valley has more stringent requirements that Bay Area car owners. Then regulators determined that Bay Area cars were the source of large percentages of valley smgo.

Bako and Fresno are screwed topographically. In LA, near the coast ($$$$), it's beautiful. However, you look east and north toward the mountains, and you see the smog.

Utah suffers from inversion layers in the winter.


Denver has the same problem, it sits in the Platte River valley.
Fairbanks, AK, made the list and they are screwed by being in a valley that gets temperature inversions and people heating with wood.



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I take exception to the Billings quote where he wants all of us to pay to clean up Californias cities. They make the mess, they pay to clean it up.


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Billings said he's concerned about Trump's plans to slash the Environmental Protection Agency's budget. "We have to keep the environmental cop on the beat," he said. Trump's budget proposal contains a 31% cut to the agency, including weakening or eliminating the Clean Air Act, which the report says has been the most important tool in the fight for healthy air by driving emission reductions for more than 47 years.
 
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A carbon tax will fix their ills.


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I take exception to the Billings quote where he wants all of us to pay to clean up Californias cities. They make the mess, they pay to clean it up.
How dare you speak of something as outdated and discriminatory as self responsibility! Didn't you get the memo? We've evolved beyond that. Roll Eyes

As for Cali and their air pollution issues, I just can't find it within myself to give a damn.


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the EPA isn't the issue with the air quality



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How about they put in Wind Farms and drive them as fans?

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In related pollution news, California has decided that diesel locomotives polute too much so it looks they're asking the EPA to mandate magical, non-polluting diesel locomotives.

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California formally petitions for zero-emissions locomotives
Written by Stuart Chirls, Senior Editor

The California Air Resources Board has petitioned the Environmental Protection Agency to take action to adopt more stringent emission standards for locomotives, saying that the move is needed to clean up the air in “high-risk” communities in and around the nation’s railyards.

“Reducing locomotive-related emissions and the resulting air toxic hot spots near railyards is a high priority for disadvantaged communities within California and around the nation,” said Board Chair Mary D. Nichols. “A new generation of locomotives will also, once in operation, offer fuel savings to the railroad industry.”

The Board said its goal is zero- or near-zero emission locomotives. <emphasis added> Proposed “Tier 5” emission standards would cut diesel particulate (PM) emissions by 85% and 66% for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) below current Tier 4 levels. Newly manufactured locomotives would have some zero-emission mile capability.

The current Tier 4 standards were phased in from 2000-2015...."


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And yet, libtards will rail on and on about the fruits of living in the socialistic utopia.




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In related pollution news, California has decided that diesel locomotives polute too much so it looks they're asking the EPA to mandate magical, non-polluting diesel locomotives.

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California formally petitions for zero-emissions locomotives
Written by Stuart Chirls, Senior Editor

The California Air Resources Board has petitioned the Environmental Protection Agency to take action to adopt more stringent emission standards for locomotives, saying that the move is needed to clean up the air in “high-risk” communities in and around the nation’s railyards.

“Reducing locomotive-related emissions and the resulting air toxic hot spots near railyards is a high priority for disadvantaged communities within California and around the nation,” said Board Chair Mary D. Nichols. “A new generation of locomotives will also, once in operation, offer fuel savings to the railroad industry.”

The Board said its goal is zero- or near-zero emission locomotives. <emphasis added> Proposed “Tier 5” emission standards would cut diesel particulate (PM) emissions by 85% and 66% for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) below current Tier 4 levels. Newly manufactured locomotives would have some zero-emission mile capability.

The current Tier 4 standards were phased in from 2000-2015...."


http://www.railwayage.com/inde...ives.html?channel=00




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In related pollution news, California has decided that diesel locomotives polute too much so it looks they're asking the EPA to mandate magical, non-polluting diesel locomotives.
Well, if not diesel, maybe they'd prefer steam locomotives. After all, steam is just water vapor. Wink



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