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Trapping illegals...I think this guy has it covered.



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first thing that needs to happen is to stop wiring money out of the country - hit up WalMart and Western Union

limit the out of country transfers to Central and South America to $100 a month



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I might be odd man out, I think we should encourage immigration, that is how all of us got here (except for those who have Native American heritage).

But I would encourage immigration for those who want a better life than is possible in their homeland, and who are fully willing to obey the laws here, and who are fully willing to assimilate into American culture.

My angst is immigrants who want all the freedoms and opportunities America affords, but who don't/won't obey the laws, and who want to maintain their homeland culture, expecting America to assimilate to them. But they still expect/demand their free seat on the gravy-train.


What people (the sensible ones anyway) are against is illegal immigration. Everyone (the sensible ones) should be able to agree that we need to stop illegal immigration. After that first immigration priority is fixed, then we can talk about tightening up the rest of the immigration system.



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first thing that needs to happen is to stop wiring money out of the country - hit up WalMart and Western Union

limit the out of country transfers to Central and South America to $100 a month


As a conservative, I would be against limiting out of country transfers to Central and South America. Why only those two regions? And why restraint what people do with their property that they legally obtained?

I understand you're trying to fix illegal immigration but two wrongs don't make a right. The illegal immigration process has no problem moving actual bodies across borders. The illegal drug trade has no problem moving money across borders. So what makes you think your proposal is going to solve anything?



"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
 
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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
I might be odd man out, I think we should encourage immigration, that is how all of us got here (except for those who have Native American heritage).

But I would encourage immigration for those who want a better life than is possible in their homeland, and who are fully willing to obey the laws here, and who are fully willing to assimilate into American culture.

My angst is immigrants who want all the freedoms and opportunities America affords, but who don't/won't obey the laws, and who want to maintain their homeland culture, expecting America to assimilate to them. But they still expect/demand their free seat on the gravy-train.
And, whether legal or illegal, immigrants should be totally ineligible for 'all' government assistance for a period of ten years, and 'any' run ins with the law would result in immediate deportation of the offender and all related family. And by 'all' government programs I mean if they can't prove they're here legally, no service at the emergency room and no school for their kids. How many illegals would come here if those are the rules?


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The way things work in the country right now, it's like you catch someone stealing your car, and the government tells you not only do they get to keep your car, you have to pay for gas and repairs for the rest of their lives.




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I might be odd man out, I think we should encourage immigration, that is how all of us got here (except for those who have Native American heritage).


Native Americans are also immigrants. Most came over from Siberia. Then how do you measure "Native American Heritage"? Tribal membership? Most tribes aren't recognized by the government and tribes have different requirements for membership.

My grandparents were immigrants. They stood in line at Ellis Island, passed the screenings, spoke English and became citizens. Now we have illegal immigrants that don't learn English, don't pay taxes, and don't become part of America.

Recall standing in line for a movie. Suddenly a group from the rear rushed forward and crowded us out. That's immigration today.



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As a conservative, I would be against limiting out of country transfers to Central and South America. Why only those two regions? And why restraint what people do with their property that they legally obtained?


well, thats were most of the illegals and OTM's come from

and why would anyone need to wire cash out of the country on a regular basis - maybe because they're being paid cash as day labor, don't have any withholding

yes, there are legitimate reasons to wire money - you can always go to a bank...oh wait...you need a bank account to do that...something an illegal wouldn't have because he doesn't have a real ID...

cut off the money and there is no longer an incentive to come here, make greenbacks and send them back to your home country

this has nothing to do with narcotics



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A Glenkinchie and a snare to trap those bloody Scots.

That could work, but what about the Norwegians?


LUTEFISK !!! Smile


Lutefisk. Yumm. Dried Whitefish soaked in Lye. That will attract some Canadians, as well. Anything that snares Canadians sounds like a good idea to me.

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Mmmmmmm!

You had me at soaked in lye.
 
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