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WTF are they bitching about now? Never mind, stupid question.
 
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Massad Ayoob take on mob violence.
Avoid or carry a 115gr +p+ & $800,000.
If don't want watch all of the video,
start at the 8 minute mark.

 
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Of course the headline was....police car drives through crowd of pedestrians. Not a word of course, that they were rioters.
 
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I lived in Silicon Valley for close to 40 years, know quite well the liberal mantra. My concern with the liberal trend is that anti-social behavior will increase, economic health will decline, and the liberals will never admit the cause of the problems.




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I look at the Democrats in power no longer as Bolsheviks in the Lenin sense, but as Maoists in the Mao sense.


I’ve been giving a lot of thought to the state of radical leftism in the country recently, and it prompted me to reread The Soviet Tragedy by Martin Malia. At first when seeing the ANTIFA tactics, they struck me as most similar to the Nazi SA’s, but there are a lot of differences. It finally dawned on me that I was trying too hard to find actions and organizations that were exactly equivalent. Not every tyrannical movement bent on establishing a totalitarian regime will do so by precisely the same methods or organizations like the Red Guards or Sturmabteilung. Although ANTIFA doesn’t do the same things in the same way as did the SA, there are no meetings of its enemies in beer halls to break up.

The Chinese Communists, Nazis, Bolsheviks, and other totalitarian regimes didn’t all gain power by the same means and there may be no individual to whom we can point (yet) as the ANTIFA Zhou Enlai, Leon Trotsky, or Ernst Röhm, but the organizations have all had the same basic goals and were/are willing to use essentially the same methods and tactics to achieve them. That means that despite any artificial left/right divide attached to the organizations by historians and politicians for their own agendas, there is no fundamental difference among them. We should not, I therefore believe, get hung up on which tyrannical organization or regime the modern groups resemble most in any details we might focus on.

Although ANTIFA may be becoming an embarrassment to the Democrat party at present as other violent factions have sometimes embarrassed their parents, in general the party itself is attempting to achieve the same ends as the other totalitarian regimes of the past century. There are of course many individual Democrat voters and politicians who would disagree, but there were many members of the Nazi and various Communist parties who disagreed with many of the details of their organizations’ goals and actions as well—but to no avail either. And sooner or later, the ones who fail to fall in line (and even many who do) will suffer from the same inevitable purges conducted by other totalitarian regimes.

(I am not, BTW, challenging or disagreeing with icom706 because I don’t know enough to have an opinion about that particular analysis. I am much less familiar with the history of Red China than I am of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Part of that is due to less personal interest, but also because much more has been written and revealed about the latter two—and I believe, because of the personal agendas of the historians who write about such things. These are just my own thoughts and observations about the current state of affairs.)

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Read “The Russian Revolution” by Richard Pipes. A lot of similarities between what we are seeing in the US today and not long before the Commies took over Russia.


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The Seattle Police chief announced a new policy. Police will actually arrest people? Perhaps Starbucks threatened to shut off the coffee? I did see mention that the city prosecutor claimed they hadn’t heard about it.


“ SEATTLE (AP) — Interim Seattle Police Chief Adrian Diaz says the city is getting tougher on those who commit vandalism during street protests.

Diaz announced the new policy before an anticipated protest Saturday, saying it was coordinated with Seattle City Attorney Pete Holmes, The Seattle Times reported.

Over the past year, police have made about 600 arrests during protests, but in many cases misdemeanors have not been prosecuted. Diaz says that’s changing and those suspects will have their day in court — especially those who have been arrested repeatedly for vandalism.

A crowd of so-called black-bloc demonstrators who marched on Wednesday night following President Joe Biden’s inauguration broke glass windows and doors of several downtown buildings, including a Starbucks and the William Kenzo Nakamura Courthouse. Police made three arrests, including one for assault.

Extra officers were on duty downtown Saturday, Diaz said.”
https://www.987thebull.com/sea...ndalism-at-protests/
  



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Reginald Denny. All one needs to know.
 
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The Seattle Police chief announced a new policy. Police will actually arrest people? Perhaps Starbucks threatened to shut off the coffee? I did see mention that the city prosecutor claimed they hadn’t heard about it. . . .


But arresting (mostly peaceful) protesters is violating their rights. Biden should stick up for the protesters. Wink




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Antifa is playing in Tacoma again tonight in response to getting their ass run over when they were blocking a patrol vehicle.


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Tacoma redux. Works for me.




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This “city approved” message brought to you by Minneapolis’s inept city council.

Minneapolis To Hire 6 ‘Influencers’ To Spread City-Approved Messaging


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This “city approved” message brought to you by Minneapolis’s inept city council.

Minneapolis To Hire 6 ‘Influencers’ To Spread City-Approved Messaging


Did they hire a minister of propaganda to oversee the campaign?


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Ah, yes. Why does that sound like trying to put condoms on stray cats?

Somehow this sounds more like buying off a couple of the local socially-approved socially disenfranchised than actually solving a problem.
 
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^^^Yup, Leftist Democrats doing what Leftist Democrats do... Roll Eyes


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This could get interesting (link to Fox News) -

Ferguson activists, Michael Brown's father demand $20M from BLM

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The father of Michael Brown and other activists from Ferguson, Missouri, are demanding financial support from Black Lives Matter after the organization revealed it raised over $90 million last year.

Michael Brown Sr., whose son was fatally shot by a white police officer in August 2014, along with the other activists that helped propel the movement, want $20 million from the group to help their community.

"Where is all that money going?" Brown Sr. asked in a Tuesday press release from The International Black Freedom Alliance.

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Maybe antifa can come in to mediate after the inevitable rioting commences?


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"Where is all that money going?" Brown Sr. asked in a Tuesday press release from The International Black Freedom Alliance.
No shit. BLM leaders pockets, no doubt. The whole thing is a fraud.


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"Where is all that money going?" Brown Sr. asked in a Tuesday press release from The International Black Freedom Alliance.
No shit. BLM leaders pockets, no doubt. The whole thing is a fraud.


Am I wrong, or not, but didn't the parents of Michael Brown hit the ghetto lottery via a big settlement?

And now they are trying to shakedown BLM for more money? They probably squandered the payout already, now wanting more Geesh.


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It would really be nice to see the chickens come home to roost on this one.

Unfortunately it is likely that nothing will come of this.
 
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"Where is all that money going?" Brown Sr. asked in a Tuesday press release from The International Black Freedom Alliance.
No shit. BLM leaders pockets, no doubt. The whole thing is a fraud.


Am I wrong, or not, but didn't the parents of Michael Brown hit the ghetto lottery via a big settlement?

And now they are trying to shakedown BLM for more money? They probably squandered the payout already, now wanting more Geesh.


I googled it, seems Brown's parents got a $1.5M tax free wrongful death settlement from the City of Ferguson about 4 years ago. If they are out of money, they spent close to $400K per year?

I think it is a common pattern for people who get a windfall of $$ to be quite irresponsible.

And a little disconcerting, seems the evidence shows the death was not wrongful.




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