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It's a manifold. Great for isolating and doing work.

The downside is efficiency. Let's say that you have a full bathroom located between the water heater and kitchen. With the manifold set-up, there would be a separate run for each room. With the traditional set-up you would have a tee at the full bathroom and both the cold and hot water would continue to the kitchen. If you just got done doing the dishes and wanted to hop in the shower the traditional set-up would have immediate hotwater except a few feet of water between tee in ceiling and shower, but in the manifold set-up there would be no hot water between the water heater and shower so you'd have to run all of the line fill down the drain before the hot water arrived.

I wonder if he has a hot water circulation pump built into that. One man branch with continuously circulating hot water feeding the branches as needed.
My buddy in Alaska had a huge sprawling Texas sized home. Even with the size, the gas bill didn't make sense. Then, he discovered/remembered that the home had the circulated hot water loop. He said the instant hot water was nice, but not nice enough to justify that big bill so he shut it off.



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Posts: 19887 | Location: N. Houston, TX | Registered: November 14, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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We lost power in our subdivision on early Monday morning...we left Tuesday to a friends house a few miles away with power. Went back just a few minutes ago and he neighborhood is still w/o power. People are burning pallets and bringing coals indoors, they’ve cut the mesquite trees off of an empty lot, people are helping each other. There’s no internet either...

My big freezer is still frozen, but the food in the fridge in the house is done...it’s 50° inside. I chucked the stuff outside .

The roads are complete ice. The city is ice. The roads have two to three inches of ice. I drove in the gutter where running water had melted the ice and I could get traction.



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Posts: 8059 | Location: Temple, Texas! | Registered: October 07, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Just a heads up for those dealing with frozen pipes and their resulting mess. I'm in the industry and while we have very large offices in Texas and many supporting offices traveling to assist, it could be a while before you get help.

The number of claims that are being filed through homeowner's insurance is staggering. There are early reports that this event could be record shattering in numerous categories. Talked to a very large equipment manufacturer yesterday and was told they've exceeded their record sales following a catastrophe and they simply don't have the inventory or the supplies to fill the rush of orders.

If anyone needs advice on what to do with a flooded house before help arrives, please reach out to me, my email is in my profile.
 
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I’m pretty sure my indoor plumbing survived - faucets were all left trickling (preparing for the summer-like water bill) - and I was fortunate in never losing power.

My two outdoor faucets were covered (slab foundation, brick sided home, faucets mounted through the bricks) but evidently there was a small drip from each one. Both are frozen solid. I’m a bit on edge for these two now that we are starting to thaw out.
 
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I’m pretty sure my indoor plumbing survived - faucets were all left trickling (preparing for the summer-like water bill) - and I was fortunate in never losing power.

My two outdoor faucets were covered (slab foundation, brick sided home, faucets mounted through the bricks) but evidently there was a small drip from each one. Both are frozen solid. I’m a bit on edge for these two now that we are starting to thaw out.



There's a good chance that if those out door bibs split, you won't know till you turn the water on outside to use them. After things thaw out, make certain someone is inside near those lines when you turn them on outside. They'll hear the water instantly allowing you to turn them off right away if need be.

Don't know how many people have washed their car or pressure washed their drive way in the spring only to walk back into a flooded house.
 
Posts: 2632 | Location: The Low Country | Registered: October 21, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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There's a good chance that if those out door bibs split, you won't know till you turn the water on outside to use them. After things thaw out, make certain someone is inside near those lines when you turn them on outside. They'll hear the water instantly allowing you to turn them off right away if need be.

Don't know how many people have washed their car or pressure washed their drive way in the spring only to walk back into a flooded house.


Appreciate the words of wisdom. I figure tomorrow will be the day of reckoning when it really warms up.
 
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.....We still have no water because we had to turn it off with a burst pipe.
Waiting until our plumber calls us back or it warms up enough to start on it myself.
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I bet plumbers in Texas are swamped!


Yeah, we are getting they can come some time in March??? Confused
Gonna have to fix it myself. Eek
 
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.....We still have no water because we had to turn it off with a burst pipe.
Waiting until our plumber calls us back or it warms up enough to start on it myself.
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I bet plumbers in Texas are swamped!


Yeah, we are getting they can come some time in March??? Confused
Gonna have to fix it myself. Eek
I'm fortunate--my Handyman is a qualified plumber and will be fixing my pipes tomorrow.

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I’m pretty sure my indoor plumbing survived - faucets were all left trickling (preparing for the summer-like water bill) - and I was fortunate in never losing power.

My two outdoor faucets were covered (slab foundation, brick sided home, faucets mounted through the bricks) but evidently there was a small drip from each one. Both are frozen solid. I’m a bit on edge for these two now that we are starting to thaw out.


I think all of our water is running okay. The only pipe I have a concern with is the front yard faucet which comes up out of the ground. When I tried to turn it on the first night it got really cold, nothing happened. I covered it up with one of the new fabric covers, a couple of plastic bags, and a metal washtub.

Nothing has happened so far, and my hope is that the slow rise in temperature will simply allow the ice to melt naturally and that outside faucet will start working again.

Fingers crossed for you.
 
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Water's out around here. Me, I'm hoping that it warms up enough before water becomes available again that bursting pipes will be relatively rare. If we make it to Saturday, then we stay up above freezing, but it'll still be pretty cold at night.
 
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My good friend is fixing my broken pipes, have 4 so far and it's great that he is a retired plumber. Hope to get running water coming out of the faucets instead of thru the wall/ceiling.
 
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Hanyman (aka plumber) here today. Has fixed some of the pipes but keeps finding more. Hoping for a good outcome. Floors have been pretty well dried out from the flood.

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Plumbing supplies are the new ammo now in TX. I'm seeing things such as Sharkbite couplers that retail for $8-15 being bought up and flipped for $25-60 on private party sales sites like CL and FB marketplace. Mad
 
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Plumbing supplies are the new ammo now in TX. I'm seeing things such as Sharkbite couplers that retail for $8-15 being bought up and flipped for $25-60 on private party sales sites like CL and FB marketplace. Mad
Dick move, but they've got the right to. Locally, I found everything I needed (~$25.00 worth) and got my water going yesterday. I have a sediment filter at my well and the thick Lucite bowl cracked, but the valve was still OK and I could switch it to bypass.

Good luck to all without water. I hope it's restored and any plumbing issues are minor, fixed quickly, and inexpensive.
 
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My Handyman has completed temporary fixes and I've got hot and cold water in necessary places in the house now. He didn't find a few parts he needs to make a permanent fix, but I'll get by for now. All is well.

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Went to the house today, the sprinkler riser that was under a insulated bag and with a trouble light froze. I had turned the valve off and opened the drain-but water in the valve body split it when it froze.

All my outdoor spigots were fine when they thawed out.

Went to Lowe’s got an 86 cent one inch cap and cut the valve out and glued a cap on the line and that’s that until it warms up and the ground dries out....I’ll re-plumb it, but under ground in a box where it won’t freeze.

I left a bottle of water in the water meter box and it never froze.

Still w/o power since Early Monday 0100.



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Went to the house today, the sprinkler riser that was under a insulated bag and with a trouble light froze. I had turned the valve off and opened the drain-but water in the valve body split it when it froze.

All my outdoor spigots were fine when they thawed out.

Went to Lowe’s got an 86 cent one inch cap and cut the valve out and glued a cap on the line and that’s that until it warms up and the ground dries out....I’ll re-plumb it, but under ground in a box where it won’t freeze.

I left a bottle of water in the water meter box and it never froze.

Still w/o power since Early Monday 0100.
When you replace, consider replacing with a gate valve instead of a ball valve. Ball valves are the worst valve style for shutoffs since they trap liquid inside which expands when it freezes.



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We got water back tonight after about 5 1/4 days without. Power never went out, thankfully.

I still have a fire sprinkler that was leaking profusely on Tuesday to be taken care of. Since it dissipated slowly that night I presumed it had refrozen (on a ceiling, four inches from an outside wall). Since the leak never reappeared I think the building sprinkler supply is shut off. Oh well, we probably have to wait another few days on that I'd bet.
 
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