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Rogue - what precautions have you taken to prevent frozen pipes?

I've got the styrofoam covers on the outside spigots but am not sure what more can be done.

Currently the heat pump is set for 70 inside but is struggling to maintain 65.


Not much. I've been dripping my faucets. And I did put a layer of mulch over the plastic manhole cover in the yard containing my water meter and shutoff valve, but those are about 3 feet underground so should be fine.

None of my pipes or fixtures are located along exterior walls, which is helpful. My outside spigots are freezeproof, so I'm not worried about those.

The neighborhood messageboard has already had one person report frozen intake pipes on their water heater, which was located in their garage without any sort of enclosure. Mine's in my garage too, but inside a closet.

My house is brand new, and well insulated. So my gas furnace is having no issues holding my usual 66 inside.

And I have the gas fireplace in the living room going currently. Smile
 
Posts: 27032 | Location: Northwest Arkansas | Registered: January 06, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm in a new house with PEX running through the attic instead of copper under the slab like older houses in Dallas. Guess what? It's below freezing in the attic and the supply lines coming down exterior walls are all frozen. I have one sink, two outdoor "frost free" faucets, and a toilet supply all frozen.
 
Posts: 121 | Location: N. TX | Registered: June 22, 2019Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I do feel for you guys because I know you are not acclimated to cold temps. But we are going into week 3 of these kinds of temps. We are finally going to get some relief starting tomorrow.



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Posts: 7346 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: June 17, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I do feel for you guys because I know you are not acclimated to cold temps.


The issue isn't so much that folks aren't acclimated to it. The bigger issue is that the further south you go, the houses simply aren't built to handle such low temperatures for extended periods.

Northwest Arkansas is pretty far north in "The South", so our construction tends to account for it more than, say, houses built in central Texas.
 
Posts: 27032 | Location: Northwest Arkansas | Registered: January 06, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Snow and ice here in southern new mexico. Was 17 degrees last night. More snow coming tuesday, i hate snow! I was staring spring cleanup last week!
 
Posts: 223 | Location: New Mexico | Registered: October 11, 2020Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Prepping their houses for future weather might be a good thought. More insulation not only helps for cold weather but also in hot weather.
Fixing water lines to prevent future freezing might be cheaper then repairs.
Outside water lines should be able to be shut off and blown out for these type of events.

For folks out of power generators are a god send. Many folks here will spend thousands on gun/stuff but haven't thought to spend a few hundred on a generator.



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Posts: 3544 | Location: Metamora MI | Registered: October 31, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It's been one of the colder spells here in the Denver metro in the last 15-20 years. At least for a few days of barely breaking zero. I have one set of lines that runs to a shower that's on the north side of the house and the pipes froze once or twice many years ago so I've kept the lines with a slow drip and it's been good so far. I insulated my basement with Foamular 250 last Spring and that's made an amazing difference. Very consistent temperatures. I didn't even have a register open downstairs until recently when me daughter forgot to close the egress window when she was staring at stars, lol. Definitely need the heat this week though.

Stay safe and warm!
 
Posts: 5648 | Location: CO | Registered: October 11, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yep, a $1100 Honda 2000 watt generator ran our Refer, Rinni propane furnace, tv/sat. system and a few lights, for almost 2 days none stop. Never a hicup. Just took a couple of good extension cords. Real ones. Not the ones like vacuum cleaner cords. Eek



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I drove in from NW PA yesterday...I30 was not fun so I got off near Sulfer Springs and the roads were a solid sheet of ice...great Roll Eyes

I had to take my GTI(with all seasons HA HA) to PA since the wife cannot drive a 6sp. Got home just in time for the fun...rolling black outs and -15 (with wind chill) north of DFW.

Went out and shoveled the drive, that's a first here) thank got I actually had a show shovel.

Got the back up batteries and camping stove out....just in time for the power to come back on Big Grin

Going to the park with the power and will find a full propane tank and an adapter hose....should have done that before.

I love this shit Cool
 
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Another thought for you southern folks, septic lines & tanks can freeze too. Be very careful if your lines run an area where you drive as that can "push" the frost deeper.
Watch carefully for backups!



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Posts: 3544 | Location: Metamora MI | Registered: October 31, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The issue isn't so much that folks aren't acclimated to it. The bigger issue is that the further south you go, the houses simply aren't built to handle such low temperatures for extended periods.



I'll second that. We're in the Dallas area where the temp got down to 4(F) early this morning, and while our 60-year-old house was built very well, it's not insulated the way homes are in Rogue's region.

The temperature in our house is about eight degrees lower than our thermostat setting.
 
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Pretty damn cold here in North Texas. Official Temp right now is 6 degrees, but my outside thermometer is showing 12. It's hanging on an outside wall under our pergola so there's a bit of protection there. I guess we've got about 4" of this white stuff on the ground. The cold water feed to our washer appears to be at least somewhat frozen, as the wash shut down saying it couldn't fill. The state as rolling black outs. Daughter number 1, who lives about 3 miles from us lost power at 8 am, and daughter number 2, who lives 80 miles north just now lost power. We still have juice.

Oh well, we'll get through this. Nothing like when we lived in the Chicago area. Only difference is houses there are built to hand extreme cold, whereas houses here in Texas are engineered for heat.



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Posts: 10138 | Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Registered: February 07, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I do feel for you guys because I know you are not acclimated to cold temps.


The issue isn't so much that folks aren't acclimated to it. The bigger issue is that the further south you go, the houses simply aren't built to handle such low temperatures for extended periods.

Northwest Arkansas is pretty far north in "The South", so our construction tends to account for it more than, say, houses built in central Texas.
Houston is not built to handle it at all. For example, freeze proof faucets would've cost the builder $15 total to install at original construction in 2016 but instead there are regular faucets.

Our HVAC systems are set-up for air conditioning which means the vent is in the ceiling and the cold (actually warm) air vent is also in the ceiling.

They run uninsulated pex pipe through the attic on top of the joists and if any blown-in insulation gets on them it was purely by accident.

Most of my neighbors have dual water heaters in their attic. I'm fortunate that I have a tankless water heater between the studs in my garage wall.

Wind turbines account for some of Texas' electrical generation and they're dead in the water right now. They're doing rolling blackouts for load shedding but widespread posts that they're lying their asses off about only cycling you off for 30 to 45 minutes at a time. We've been without power since 2:30 AM so I'm suspecting a downed transmission line.



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Posts: 19887 | Location: N. Houston, TX | Registered: November 14, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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This is Galveston Beach which is a historic event



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Posts: 19887 | Location: N. Houston, TX | Registered: November 14, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Pretty damn cold here in North Texas. Official Temp right now is 6 degrees, but my outside thermometer is showing 12. It's hanging on an outside wall under our pergola so there's a bit of protection there. I guess we've got about 4" of this white stuff on the ground. The cold water feed to our washer appears to be at least somewhat frozen, as the wash shut down saying it couldn't fill. The state as rolling black outs. Daughter number 1, who lives about 3 miles from us lost power at 8 am, and daughter number 2, who lives 80 miles north just now lost power. We still have juice.

Oh well, we'll get through this. Nothing like when we lived in the Chicago area. Only difference is houses there are built to hand extreme cold, whereas houses here in Texas are engineered for heat.


Where in the Chicago area did you live, and when? I was in Winfield (next to Wheaton) in the sixties. And yes, I was there for THAT blizzard.
 
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Yeah. I grew up in the Midwest and was shocked that the water line was a half inch below the surface and insulation in the attic was limited. Same with the faucets. Small savings on things like that. I had 600 dollars worth of insulation blown into my attic it has really cut my electric bill. The code enforcement on the Gulf Coast did improve some after Katrina.
 
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Just shoo'd a coyote off my porch here in the burbs. He must have been the weak one of the pack. He pushed through the snow down into my mulch and was making a bed for himself. Cameras picked him up and I was able to get him off the property and call animal control.



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Wait a minute.

All the progressives talk about is Global Warming so all this snow and ice is impossible, right?
 
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Yeah. I grew up in the Midwest and was shocked that the water line was a half inch below the surface and insulation in the attic was limited. Same with the faucets. Small savings on things like that. I had 600 dollars worth of insulation blown into my attic it has really cut my electric bill. The code enforcement on the Gulf Coast did improve some after Katrina.
I have a shit ton of insulation in my house and my peak air conditioning bill is only $150. The problem is none of the water is insulated.



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Posts: 19887 | Location: N. Houston, TX | Registered: November 14, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I’ve been texting with a friend who lives in San Antonio. Their power was out all night. “It’s cold in here,” he said. He sent me a picture of their Jeep and truck, sitting there with a good 4” of snow on them.


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