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I believe in the
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Erick Erickson
May 12, 2027

President Trump firing James Comey as Director of the FBI is not a constitutional crisis. The president has the power to do so, and any new director must be confirmed by the Senate.

The interim Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, is highly regarded by both sides of the aisle as a competent professional. His wife was a Democrat candidate for the Virginia legislator backed by the Clinton family's friends. If President Trump intended to stop the FBI's counterintelligence investigation into Russia, he made a terrible mistake.

Beyond that, enough Senate Republicans refuse to serve as yes men for the president that they will not want a yes man at the FBI. The major Senate figures who will be involved in a confirmation fight are gearing up to grill any nominee. Democrats should not fret this.

President Clinton who, unlike President Trump, was being investigated by the FBI, fired his Director of the FBI. The people screaming now were OK then. Much of the hysteria right now is partisan hysteria stemming from a strong distrust of President Trump.

To be fair, President Trump makes that distrust easy. The man will contradict himself within two clauses of a single sentence and then lie about it. His infidelity to truth and temperament breeds distrust. But none of this has created a constitutional crisis.

The real constitutional crisis is happening in our judiciary. Dawn Johnsen, a law professor who worked for both Presidents Clinton and Obama, spoke at the Seventh Circuit Judicial Conference and urged the federal judges to stop giving judicial deference to the President. "Has Trump in effect forfeited some measure of judicial deference across contexts and cases, through his disrespect for the courts and the rule of law and his displays of prejudice and arbitrary decision making? And if he has not yet reached that point, what more would it take?" she asked.

Johnsen explains, "[W]hen courts review congressional and executive action, they often use standards and doctrines of deference. One way to think about it ... is that courts defer to political actors, except when there is good reason not to defer. Clear examples of when deference is not appropriate occur when, in the Court's words, "a statutory classification ... proceeds along suspect lines" or "infringes fundamental constitutional rights." At the other extreme, deference may be especially appropriate where the Constitution confers special authority to the President or to Congress..., which traditionally has included matters of national security, war powers and foreign affairs."

She then boldly suggests President Trump is owed no judicial deference because he acts in an arbitrary manner and not necessarily in good faith. As Trump Derangement Syndrome has infected the political elite and Russia-ism has replaced Birtherism as the fever swamp fantasy, more and more lawyers and judges are headed in this direction.

Federal judges have blocked President Trump's inarguably constitutional travel restrictions merely because of statements candidate Trump made before becoming President Trump. Holding a President to campaign stump speeches has never been done before. In fact, President Obama campaigned for his healthcare plan declaring it not a tax, but the Supreme Court upheld the Affordable Care Act under the constitution's taxing powers. Had they used the president's campaign statements, the legislation would have been ruled unconstitutional.


In Virginia, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union argued before the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals that President Trump is the reason a travel ban is unconstitutional. Judge Niemeyer of the Fourth Circuit, a federal judge not willing to join the fever swamp, asked the ACLU's lawyer, "We have a candidate who won the presidency, some candidate other than President Trump won the presidency and then chose to issue this particular order, with whatever counsel he took.... Do I understand that just in that circumstance, the executive order should be honored?"

The ACLU's lawyer responded, "Yes, your honor, I think in that case, it could be constitutional." When the federal judiciary will not give the president of the United States due deference merely because they do not like that particular president, we do have a constitutional crisis. Unfortunately for the republic, this is a constitutional crisis the Democrats and media support and are enabling.

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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One way to think about it ... is that courts defer to political actors, except when there is good reason not to defer. Clear examples of when deference is not appropriate occur when, in the Court's words, "a statutory classification ... proceeds along suspect lines" or "infringes fundamental constitutional rights."

Many people feel that Obamacare "infringes fundamental constitutional rights" but I think Roberts flipped his vote to show "deference to political actors".

Obviously by now, Trump won't be shown the same level of deference as Obama... but I think the deference to Obama was excessive.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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I agree with you about excessive deference, but there's a a slightly different problem with what she's saying.

If the President (whoever it is) can be shown to have carried out their duties in an arbitrary manner, then yeah, any lawyer who can make an argument out of it should raise that argument and any court oughtta entertain that argument as it would any other.

What she's saying is that Trump shouldn't be entitled to any deference at all because anything he does is (she sez) inherently arbitrary. IOW, no proof, no showing, no argument, and no justification needed whenever an activist judge decides to ignore Trump's exercise of Presidential authority.

Now take that a step further. If everything Trump does is, in an activist judge's mind, arbitrary, then how can anything Trump does pass the rational basis test for constitutionality?
 
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If the courts act outside their authority, there is no guarantee that Trump would abide by that fake authority.




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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
I agree with you about excessive deference, but there's a a slightly different problem with what she's saying.

If the President (whoever it is) can be shown to have carried out their duties in an arbitrary manner, then yeah, any lawyer who can make an argument out of it should raise that argument and any court oughtta entertain that argument as it would any other.

What she's saying is that Trump shouldn't be entitled to any deference at all because anything he does is (she sez) inherently arbitrary. IOW, no proof, no showing, no argument, and no justification needed whenever an activist judge decides to ignore Trump's exercise of Presidential authority.

Now take that a step further. If everything Trump does is, in an activist judge's mind, arbitrary, then how can anything Trump does pass the rational basis test for constitutionality?


This is the problem when words are used in a flexible manner, no discipline in thought.

These concepts have well defined meanings, but not including that a court should defer to an executive it doesn't like.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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If everything Trump does is, in an activist judge's mind, arbitrary,


then you have a judge needing recalibration therapy


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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
If everything Trump does is, in an activist judge's mind, arbitrary, then how can anything Trump does pass the rational basis test for constitutionality?
First off, these judges don't give a damn about constitutionality anymore. We've moved way beyond that. They care about their ideology and catering to it. Reminds me of the line out of the movie 'Shooter' when Ned Beatty as Senator Meachum sarcastically says, "The law is whatever I say it is, boy." How long before we actually hear some of these judges being quoted saying something to that effect.

How about this for an interesting rebuttal to Dawn and others like her. Who gives a damn who the president is, what party he belongs to, or what campaign comments he made. How about judges simply do their damn job and enforce the laws as written, and stick their own personal opinions in a drawer somewhere. If that had happened in this ridiculous 'travel ban' situation, there would never have been judicial involvement beyond the first court that heard the complaint. Any president has the authority under the law to enact what Trump has attempted to enact. End of story. And the judges who hung this up can stick their 'deference' sideways up their derriere.

One final thought. These black robed 'boobs' had better be very careful heading down the road they're on. When a majority of the country finally realizes that the law means essentially nothing anymore (I'm getting close to that point now myself), society is likely to unwind into something rather ugly.


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The only Constitutional crisis is that liberals breed like rabbits.
 
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I don't trust this McCabe guy. He made deputy in what? 13 years? How's that possible? He's a democrat cop. I know many cops. I don't know any liberal cops.
 
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Daniel Horowitz recently wrote a book about this crisis in the Judiciary, called Stolen Sovereignty.

He is particularly sharp.




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