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Know this article is among hundreds speculating on a newer version of the SE series. Before wasting your time reading, please know there is no proof of the new phone in this article. Only speculation.

That being said, I'm up for a new phone. The battery in my 5s is toast, but I think I will wait until March 2020 to see what comes out. New SE2?. Great, I'm in. No new SE, then I move on to another newer version. No harm, no foul.

Thought this was interesting:

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/a...pest-iphone-in-years


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I’m interested, especially if they make it the size of my current SE.
 
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Given where we are with cellular tech today, the most interesting and arguably the most competitive category of new phones are the 'value' oriented offerings. The Google Pixel 3a and 3a XL were huge successes this year as a ~$400 phone. I think people are over paying ~$1k+ for phones that are only marginal improvements from prior editions. Apple's number one seller recently has been the XR edition phone which is their least expensive offering, so an SE phone is likely forth coming as Apple seeks to get buyers back to buying new phones.


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Given where we are with cellular tech today, the most interesting and arguably the most competitive category of new phones are the 'value' oriented offerings. The Google Pixel 3a and 3a XL were huge successes this year as a ~$400 phone. I think people are over paying ~$1k+ for phones that are only marginal improvements from prior editions. Apple's number one seller recently has been the XR edition phone which is their least expensive offering, so an SE phone is likely forth coming as Apple seeks to get buyers back to buying new phones.


Apple’s least expensive phone isn’t the Xr, it’s the 8 and 8 plus. And they are slow sellers. The 11 and 11 pro are selling like hot cakes. They still aren’t stocked at a lot of the Apple stores yet.


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Given where we are with cellular tech today, the most interesting and arguably the most competitive category of new phones are the 'value' oriented offerings. The Google Pixel 3a and 3a XL were huge successes this year as a ~$400 phone. I think people are over paying ~$1k+ for phones that are only marginal improvements from prior editions. Apple's number one seller recently has been the XR edition phone which is their least expensive offering, so an SE phone is likely forth coming as Apple seeks to get buyers back to buying new phones.


Apple’s least expensive phone isn’t the Xr, it’s the 8 and 8 plus. And they are slow sellers. The 11 and 11 pro are selling like hot cakes. They still aren’t stocked at a lot of the Apple stores yet.
The iPhone 8 is last generation. The XR is Apple's current gen value phone offering and its selling very well. Although selling well, sales of the iPhone 11 are down overall against projections. Across the board (Samsung, Apple, etc) sales of flagship offerings are down overall, hence the reason there are so many ~$400 - ~$600 offerings entering the market.


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Given where we are with cellular tech today, the most interesting and arguably the most competitive category of new phones are the 'value' oriented offerings. The Google Pixel 3a and 3a XL were huge successes this year as a ~$400 phone. I think people are over paying ~$1k+ for phones that are only marginal improvements from prior editions. Apple's number one seller recently has been the XR edition phone which is their least expensive offering, so an SE phone is likely forth coming as Apple seeks to get buyers back to buying new phones.


Apple’s least expensive phone isn’t the Xr, it’s the 8 and 8 plus. And they are slow sellers. The 11 and 11 pro are selling like hot cakes. They still aren’t stocked at a lot of the Apple stores yet.
The iPhone 8 is last generation. The XR is Apple's current gen value phone offering and its selling very well. Although selling well, sales of the iPhone 11 are down overall against projections. Across the board (Samsung, Apple, etc) sales of flagship offerings are down overall, hence the reason there are so many ~$400 - ~$600 offerings entering the market.


I know what generations they are. You stated the Xr was their least expensive phone. That’s incorrect. And they’re not their best selling either. Xr’s are readily available at the Apple stores. The 11 and 11 pro and pro max are not. Look it up. Projections are one thing, actual availability is another.


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I know what generations they are. You stated the Xr was their least expensive phone. That’s incorrect. And they’re not their best selling either. Xr’s are readily available at the Apple stores. The 11 and 11 pro and pro max are not. Look it up. Projections are one thing, actual availability is another.
If you're looking for a pissing contest look elsewhere. Apple projections and sales volumes on their flagship phones are off markedly, just like Samsung's are. People are keeping their current phones much longer, because they're far less willing to part with $1k+ for a new flagship. The only market that looks to be growing in sales projections and volumes are mid-tier/value offerings. For that reason I think Apple marketing an SE phone is all but guaranteed.


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I know what generations they are. You stated the Xr was their least expensive phone. That’s incorrect. And they’re not their best selling either. Xr’s are readily available at the Apple stores. The 11 and 11 pro and pro max are not. Look it up. Projections are one thing, actual availability is another.
If you're looking for a pissing contest look elsewhere. Apple projections and sales volumes on their flagship phones are off markedly, just like Samsung's are. People are keeping their current phones much longer, because they're far less willing to part with $1k+ for a new flagship. The only market that looks to be growing in sales projections and volumes are mid-tier/value offerings.


Negative ghost rider.

https://appleinsider.com/artic...-iphone-11-pro-sales

https://www.ilounge.com/news/i...-exceed-expectations

But I do think they will release a new SE2 for the smaller screen crowd.


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The new OS in my SE is a pain. Editing a photo used to snap open smartly, and now there is a delay.

My 'mint condition' SE(s) were $140 each, so I'm not buying anything new in a hurry, but a mouse/trackpad built into the Home Button and mo' computer to deal with the increased complexity of the OS would be nice.
 
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I have a couple of old iPhones a 6 and 6Splus

I am not going to upgrade until the 5G cellular comes out.

Most likely next year it could take two years apple just ended the fight with Qualcomm that makes the 5G chips.
 
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I have a couple of old iPhones a 6 and 6Splus

I am not going to upgrade until the 5G cellular comes out.

Most likely next year it could take two years apple just ended the fight with Qualcomm that makes the 5G chips.


https://www.theverge.com/2019/...tmobile-sprint-china


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Negative ghost rider.

https://appleinsider.com/artic...-iphone-11-pro-sales

https://www.ilounge.com/news/i...-exceed-expectations

But I do think they will release a new SE2 for the smaller screen crowd.


Did you read the articles you posted or just the headlines? The articles support Big Deal's point.

"The credit should be given to the more affordable iPhone 11 which starts at $699 compared to last year’s $749, making it $300 less than the iPhone 11 Pro."

"Apple’s move to cut $50 off of the iPhone 11 is starting to show a positive repel effect with sales booming."

"Cowen believes the 3 million increase in the September quarter builds was due to the iPhone XR receiving a price reduction of $150."
 
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Negative ghost rider.

https://appleinsider.com/artic...-iphone-11-pro-sales

https://www.ilounge.com/news/i...-exceed-expectations

But I do think they will release a new SE2 for the smaller screen crowd.


Did you read the articles you posted or just the headline? The articles support Big Deal's point.

"The credit should be given to the more affordable iPhone 11 which starts at $699 compared to last year’s $749, making it $300 less than the iPhone 11 Pro."

"Apple’s move to cut $50 off of the iPhone 11 is starting to show a positive repel effect with sales booming."

"Cowen believes the 3 million increase in the September quarter builds was due to the iPhone XR receiving a price reduction of $150."


Actually I did. And if you read further:

“For that quarter, iPhone 11-generation models will account for 47 million units, or 72% of the product mix.”

“According to Bloomberg, the sales figures of the iPhone 11 are higher than what was initially expected“

Like I stated earlier, you can walk into any Apple store and buy an Xr, you can’t with the iPhone 11 models. Some have them in stock, some don’t.


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Actually I did. And if you read further:

“For that quarter, iPhone 11-generation models will account for 47 million units, or 72% of the product mix.”

“According to Bloomberg, the sales figures of the iPhone 11 are higher than what was initially expected“


That's right, the lower price iPhone 11s they cut prices on and not the $1,000+ models.

My wife and I are 2 data points, but we aren't upgrading every year like we used to and there's nothing a $1,000 phone has that I need. Apple is out of my price range. I bought my current LG V20 new a year after it was introduced for half price. My wife is making do with her iPhone 7+ that was a cheap upgrade from her 6+.
 
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Actually I did. And if you read further:

“For that quarter, iPhone 11-generation models will account for 47 million units, or 72% of the product mix.”

“According to Bloomberg, the sales figures of the iPhone 11 are higher than what was initially expected“


That's right, the lower price iPhone 11s they cut prices on and not the $1,000+ models.


They didn’t cut prices on the 11. They’ve been the same price since they were released. And the iPhone 11 pro max flagship is the hardest to find at the Apple Stores.

The fact is Apple is not having ANY trouble selling the pro max. It is quite the opposite.


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They didn’t cut prices on the 11.


I must be misreading these:

"The credit should be given to the more affordable iPhone 11 which starts at $699 compared to last year’s $749, making it $300 less than the iPhone 11 Pro."

"Apple’s move to cut $50 off of the iPhone 11 is starting to show a positive repel effect with sales booming."

Are they saying compared to last year's iPhone model or something?
 
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They didn’t cut prices on the 11.


I must be misreading these:

"The credit should be given to the more affordable iPhone 11 which starts at $699 compared to last year’s $749, making it $300 less than the iPhone 11 Pro."

"Apple’s move to cut $50 off of the iPhone 11 is starting to show a positive repel effect with sales booming."

Are they saying compared to last year's iPhone model or something?


They’re comparing the prices of last years Xr when they were released 10/2018. The iPhone 11’s were just released 9/2019.


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My mistake. I don't follow iPhones as even at $700 they are well above what I'm willing to pay for a phone. If they had an SE2 in the $500 range on the other hand.
 
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Getting the new Apple battery for $29 into my 6S Plus was the best decision I ever made when it comes to phone purchases (or non-purchases).

Add in the fact that the Geek Squad damaged the front screen connections when doing the replacement, so I got a new front screen as well.

Win Win Win.
 
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I wish I had done that least year. My phone let me know that my battery is degraded two months after that promotion.
 
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