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I hope our Rino Governor follows suit.

Shortly after the waiver was announced that allows the state of Kentucky to implement a work requirement for Medicaid benefits, House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi said: “The elderly, disabled, pregnant women will suffer from today’s draconian decree.”

However, she was not accurate.

The work requirement will apply to people like Tara Bassett, who is educated and worked full time until she was sidelined with severe depression. She already puts in 15 hours a week and picks up side jobs. As you watch her work, she appears able bodied.

“I am able bodied except for this little problem up here,” Tara gestures to her head, “called mental illness.”

She says without Medicaid, her prescriptions would cost her $900 per month, and she can’t make it without some help.

The work requirement is 80 hours per month. So, Tara, who is already picking up jobs on the side, is close to the minimum. She will need to document the hours and pay a premium between $1 and $15 per month.

Pregnant women, children, primary care providers and those deemed too frail to work are exempted from the work requirement.

Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin says the work requirement, coupled with the premium, is intended to give recipients some “skin in the game,” some ownership of their own Medical benefits and a pathway back to contributing to public funds instead of drawing from them.

“An assimilation back into working society, into being part of the fabric of the community,” Bevin said. “The intent is not to give people pain but to provide opportunity, to give people a chance to do for themselves and the dignity that is associated with that.”

As predicted, opponents filed suit. Three organizations; the national health program, the Kentucky Equal Justice Center and the Southern Poverty Law Center filed suit claiming that the work requirement threatens irreparable harm to the health and welfare of the poorest and most vulnerable.

Opponents, such as Democratic Congressman John Yarmuth, say processing the paperwork and premiums will put a burden on the state and drive up expenses. He also says illiterate people and those who have a hard time with basic tasks will not manage the paperwork required to document the work, and they will just stop taking care of their health.

“Thousands of people, who presumably are not in the greatest health anyway, now lose their coverage. People will die,” Yarmuth said.

A substantial portion of Medicaid recipients in Kentucky are drug addicts. Johnny Pittman was one of them. Without being compelled by the state, he made a decision to combat his addiction to drugs and public money.

Pittman got clean and took advantage of programs for occupational therapy as well as vocational rehab. He now has a prominent job at the Oxmoor motor group in Kentucky and his health care is private sector.

“I’m setting an example for my children,” Pittman said. “I am capable to work and I’m working.”


http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ipients-to-work.html
 
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Oh no!! Thousand will die! Thousands have already died!

Give me a break. It amazes me how stupidly some people react. I love our governor. If it makes Pepsi unhappy then it must be a good thing.
 
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I don't recall the state but the concept of "employment" was pretty broad. Counted was job training, looking for work, classes on child development, budgets etc. nothing was very strenuous or difficult.



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I don’t agree with everything the Governor does, but he keeps building stock in my book.

The state has a massive unfunded retirement debt. The governor tried to find a legislative solution to pay the bill. Many in his own party shunned it. So it went no where. So in the next budget cycle, he trimmed the budget by 6 percent to fund the unfunded liability. You should have heard the screams. Jeff Co lost 25 mil off of school transportation costs. And the teachers cried the hardest about a legislative fix for the pensions. The gov simply said something to the effect of “I told you there was no money, you don’t believe me so the money had to be cut from some where”

And four hours into the shooting in Marshall County, he was on the scene. He went out of his way to thank the first responders.

And now this. Yeah, I like it.




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Time for Trump to roll out his New Deal.

You dont work? You dont eat. You dont get free Obama phones. And fuck off.


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I expect the number of people on ‘aid’ will go way down. That’s how it works with drug testing too. They just go elsewhere.
 
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Shortly after the waiver was announced that allows the state of Kentucky to implement a work requirement for Medicaid benefits, House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi said: “The elderly, disabled, pregnant women will suffer from today’s draconian decree.”


I'm confused. "The elderly" already qualify for Medicare. The disabled, those receiving SSDI, are automatically enrolled in Medicare. No choice, automatically deducted from their benefits.

Does the House Minority leader confuse Medicare with Medicaid? Or is The Woodman missing something?
 
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Shortly after the waiver was announced that allows the state of Kentucky to implement a work requirement for Medicaid benefits, House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi said: “The elderly, disabled, pregnant women will suffer from today’s draconian decree.”


I'm confused. "The elderly" already qualify for Medicare. The disabled, those receiving SSDI, are automatically enrolled in Medicare. No choice, automatically deducted from their benefits.

Does the House Minority leader confuse Medicare with Medicaid? Or is The Woodman missing something?


No, you aren't really missing anything.

There is a playbook that the libs use. It's more of a flow chart really. When cuts are made to any entitlement, the book says to claim "ERMEGHAD PEOPLE WILL DIE" despite it being anywhere close to the truth. You can see the abuses of the system day in and day out, but the Dems will always trot out a single case that they claim will die, and use them as the example of the gravy train.

A few things about KY.

We have some of the fattest poor people you'll ever see. In some areas I used to work, a KY EBT card was a form of identification.

The Dollar General is a popular store here, communities big and small. The Dollar General is very heavily subsidized by the government handout. EVERYBODY in these communities are getting a draw check. Most of them are scamming the system, the classic buy up a bunch of junk food and then go load it into a year old Escalade purchased with money from your home based pharmaceutical business.

Oh, and Kentucky actually tears them up on fraud arrests. If you lie on an application for any government benefit, you get charged, arrested and convicted.




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Would like to see this in Minnesota!


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House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi said: “The elderly, disabled, pregnant women will suffer from today’s draconian decree.”



I don't recall having seen all that many elderly, disabled, pregnant women. Another example of how non-functional her brain has become.


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Look at how the State of Maine reformed their system. They led the nation in the percentage on public assistance.
You want benefits and are not truly disabled, you have to work. It didn't take much and the welfare rolls dropped almost overnight.


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House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi said: “The elderly, disabled, pregnant women will suffer from today’s draconian decree.”

Who are specifically excluded from this requirement.
 
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"People will die,” Yarmuth said.


Curious. It used to be that people would die if they didn't work.

Perhaps Yarmuth wasn't aware of this provision:

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Pregnant women, children, primary care providers and those deemed too frail to work are exempted from the work requirement.


It's more likely that he was totally aware of it but rejected it as it didn't fit the narrative.
 
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Then perish.
 
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If you are on the facespace and are so inclined, follow governor Bevin. Some of his live stuff is hilarious.




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Yo! If I get a job I won't need no Medicaid. That jus' ain't fair.



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"People will die!" This is news? Everyone dies.

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