It would have been necessary to use far more than 59 cruise missiles to have much effect on the runways. During World War II airfields were attacked with huge numbers of aircraft (and many bombs per aircraft), the fields were cratered, and they were often repaired and back in service almost overnight. Hitting the facilities that were targeted would have some effect on operations, but this was a demonstration, not much more. If the intent is a true military purpose, we don’t let the people there know what’s coming so they can evacuate all their critical personnel and whatever equipment they can in advance.
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April 07, 2017, 07:18 AM
Veeper
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal: I hate to be the penny pincher here, but at ~$1M each, we spent around $60M today in Tomahawks on this little bitch slap of Assad. Can we please go back to plain ole conventional bombs dropped from a aircraft. Heck we could have even done more damage, dropping more ordinance, for less total out-of-pocket cost.
Come on Don, think about the income statement impacts. You need to up the ROE on this investment.
When were they actually transferred to the military as an asset? Can that be amortized? Also, can we defray the cost a bit if we add advertising stickers?
"Bwando/Magpul/ART+15 Clothing PRESENTS, a Raytheon/GD Production...." etc.
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April 07, 2017, 07:27 AM
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April 07, 2017, 07:42 AM
Gundawg
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal: I hate to be the penny pincher here, but at ~$1M each, we spent around $60M today in Tomahawks on this little bitch slap of Assad. Can we please go back to plain ole conventional bombs dropped from a aircraft. Heck we could have even done more damage, dropping more ordinance, for less total out-of-pocket cost.
Come on Don, think about the income statement impacts. You need to up the ROE on this investment.
Tomahawk missiles can range from 500K to 1.5 Mil per missile.
stockpiles as of 2016 ranged from 2500-3500 depending on where you get you info.
little info on the latest variety, and also scroll down and see little blurbs about contracts and development.
Trump strikes Syria: Media 'collusion' story hardest hit!
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April 07, 2017, 08:21 AM
entropy
FOX News page has a pic of that nincompoop Harf with the headline "What comes next? Questions remain after airstrikes in Syria."
In the words of Chevy Chase..."Jane, you ignorant slut..."
You and your almighty grand pooh-bah of an ignorant president got us to this point. We're now starting to clean up your mess. STFU and just go back to whatever alternative universe is your happy place.
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April 07, 2017, 08:22 AM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by Veeper:
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal: I hate to be the penny pincher here, but at ~$1M each, we spent around $60M today in Tomahawks on this little bitch slap of Assad. Can we please go back to plain ole conventional bombs dropped from a aircraft. Heck we could have even done more damage, dropping more ordinance, for less total out-of-pocket cost.
Come on Don, think about the income statement impacts. You need to up the ROE on this investment.
When were they actually transferred to the military as an asset? Can that be amortized? Also, can we defray the cost a bit if we add advertising stickers?
"Bwando/Magpul/ART+15 Clothing PRESENTS, a Raytheon/GD Production...." etc.
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April 07, 2017, 08:23 AM
Paragon
Message sent.
I hope the guys on the ship enjoyed doing what they were trained to do. Finally.
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April 07, 2017, 08:30 AM
sdy
"I hope the guys on the ship enjoyed doing what they were trained to do"
The Commanding Officer of the Porter is a woman.
So "guys and gals"
April 07, 2017, 08:30 AM
navyshooter
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember: nothing prettier than a night launch of a Tomahawk
Daytime launches aren't bad either. Love them TLAM's
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April 07, 2017, 09:23 AM
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April 07, 2017, 09:34 AM
SIG4EVA
It is extremely refreshing to see a Commander in Chief actually act like one. The tone when talking about Trump is respectful and even Rubio was defending it. The world now knows that the US is not a country to mess with again and it puts a huge smile on my face.
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April 07, 2017, 09:35 AM
Rightwire
I wonder what the cost comparison would be between the cruise missiles and a B52 strike launched from the US.
I think there was a little additional message in those missile strikes. Paying attention over there Mr. Kim Jong Idiot?
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April 07, 2017, 09:47 AM
mikeyspizza
Tomahawks are like EDC ammo. It's good to shoot some off once in a while and keep the supply fresh.
April 07, 2017, 09:55 AM
Deqlyn
surprisingly a lot of dems at the "other teams" website agreed it should have been done, like awhile ago... Not in huge numbers but I was surprised.
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April 07, 2017, 10:07 AM
JALLEN
Fox is reporting a Russian warship, frigate, I believe, passed through the Bosperus a few hours ago and is now heading to the area where the two destroyers are operating.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 07, 2017, 10:10 AM
AzMikeCFD102
Vladimir Putin has today diverted a warship to protect the Syrian coast and vowed to bolster Bashar al-Assad's missile defences against further US strikes as fears grew the crisis could topple into war between Russia and the West. The Russian President has immediately sent his Admiral Grigorovich frigate - armed with cruise missiles and a self-defence system - from the Black Sea to dock in Syria later.
It will pass through the east Mediterranean waters where the USS Ross and USS Porter fired the 59 Tomahawk missiles that pounded Assad's al-Shayrat military airfield near Homs in the early hours of Friday.
Putin today called it an 'illegal act of aggression' and also ripped up an agreement to avoid mid-air clashes between Russian and US fighter jets over Syria.
In the continuing fight back Russian or Syrian planes also bombed the town of Khan Sheikhoun, the scene of Tuesday's horrific chemical gas attack where 80 died, witnesses in the rebel-held area claimed.
The US was also branded 'a partner of ISIS' by al-Assad's spokesman, calling the missile strikes 'reckless and irresponsible' and accused Trump of 'naively falling' for a 'false propaganda campaign' about the Idlib Sarin massacre.
Make no mistake. This type of action is the only thing Putin respects. He'll rattle a few sabers, but then what. He's going to attack the U.S.? Doubtful.
April 07, 2017, 10:37 AM
sdy
Putin is furious. He wants to know why the mythical collusion agreement wasn't honored.
His lawyers told him "Vlad, look on the last page in fine print. It says only valid if he wins California and New York"
