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Get my pies
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Oh shit. I HOPE Trump has something to back this up as he's now firing back at Obama!




 
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Oy
 
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He probably did.


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Oh shit. I HOPE Trump has something to back this up as he's now firing back at Obama!




Interesting how that article uses partial truth to make Trump sound ignorant re: McCarthyism. The whole question should be if it is true and what should be done.



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hopefully this is just a start


https://www.uscis.gov/news/ale...g-all-h-1b-petitions

Starting April 3, 2017, USCIS will temporarily suspend premium processing for all H-1B petitions. This suspension may last up to 6 months

As long as H-1B premium processing is suspended, people will not be able to file petitions for a nonimmigrant worker, the classification under which Indian IT companies send their employees to work in the U.S.

http://economictimes.indiatime...cleshow/57460833.cms
 
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Trump is hitting the tweets pretty hard, he must really have something.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...-tapping-phones.html




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Trump is hitting the tweets pretty hard, he must really have something.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...phones.html#comments


He sure is. Goodness.

And this is about wire tapping, correct? He's not insinuating that a bug was planted in his office or something, right?

Anyway, I hope he has proof that he can get out there.


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President Trump has good reason to feel Obama is attempting a silent coup.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...ics-undermine-trump/

1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.

3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.

4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

5. January 2017: Buzzfeed/CNN dossier. Buzzfeed releases, and CNN reports, a supposed intelligence “dossier” compiled by a foreign former spy. None of the allegations can be verified and some are proven false

6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.

7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties.

8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — then a private citizen — and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign.

9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.

10. March: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign — once at a Heritage Foundation event and once at a meeting in Sessions’s Senate office. The Post suggests that the two meetings contradict Sessions’s testimony at his confirmation hearings that he had no contacts with the Russians, though in context (not presented by the Post) it was clear he meant in his capacity as a campaign surrogate

In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; then relaxed the NSA rules to allow evidence to be shared widely within the government, virtually ensuring that the information, including the conversations of private citizens, would be leaked to the media.


related articles:

http://www.nationalreview.com/...a-fisa-trump-wiretap

http://www.nationalreview.com/...y-its-all-disturbing
 
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I hope he has proof that he can get out there.

I hope they do more than "get it out there".

Like indict a former President:



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Now that would be some crazy ass shit.


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Friggin' burn it down. All of it. I'm talking scorched earth baby.
 
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DAMN!! I SOOOOO hope Trump is right about this! This would be a huge patch of sunlight to expose these traitorous scum. Already some different coverage between media outlets, of course.
 
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DAMN!! I SOOOOO hope Trump is right about this! This would be a huge patch of sunlight to expose these traitorous scum. Already some different coverage between media outlets, of course.



Let's have faith that Trump knows what he is doing. He has been proven correct on almost everything he has said and done. What concerns me is that the investigation now rests with an Obama fuckwad.
 
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I messaged a friend about this and he came back with this:

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I just saw a few tweets from Robert Costa who is a reliable reporter on Trump and he said he left the WH yesterday in a fury over the Sessions stuff and he didn't talk to anyone about his tweets this AM before he sent them. So who knows


 
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Holy cow.

You need to read all the documents from the sources in order.

November 7, 2016 (Day Before the Election!) Heat Street story that seems to have started this ball rolling

David French's January 11, 2017 National Review article

Andrew McCarty's January 11, 2017 National Review article released after French's story

Joel Pollak's March 3, 2017 Breitbart story

Reading all of the stories left me horrified.

There are three key elements that give rise to my response.

First, the Obama Administration went to the FISA court for a warrant. Under FISA, there does NOT need to be evidence of a crime; just evidence of a "national security" need. Second, the FISA court turned them down the first time. That is as rare as a rainbow farting Minotaur.

Second, the timing of these events. ll of it occurred after President Trump announced his candidacy and continued after the was elected. That alone indicates it was not a national security investigation but a political witch hunt.

Finally, there is the Obama Administration's track record of using fed.gov resources to target opponents, for example, hacking Sharyl Atkinson's computer after she reported on Fast and Furious and the whole IRSgate/Lerner criminality.

Now all we need is for the media to get off their asses and actually investigate this matter and to report on it frankly and truthfully.

That last line was an attempt at humor.



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Originally posted by Sigmanic:
DAMN!! I SOOOOO hope Trump is right about this! This would be a huge patch of sunlight to expose these traitorous scum. Already some different coverage between media outlets, of course.



Let's have faith that Trump knows what he is doing. He has been proven correct on almost everything he has said and done. What concerns me is that the investigation now rests with an Obama fuckwad.


I don't see why Sessions would recuse himself from such an investigation. He's still the AG.


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Originally posted by Shifferbrains:
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Originally posted by Sigmanic:
DAMN!! I SOOOOO hope Trump is right about this! This would be a huge patch of sunlight to expose these traitorous scum. Already some different coverage between media outlets, of course.



Let's have faith that Trump knows what he is doing. He has been proven correct on almost everything he has said and done. What concerns me is that the investigation now rests with an Obama fuckwad.


I don't see why Sessions would recuse himself from such an investigation. He's still the AG.

Dumb move, imho, trying to pacify the cockroaches.






 
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by Shifferbrains:
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Originally posted by Sigmanic:
DAMN!! I SOOOOO hope Trump is right about this! This would be a huge patch of sunlight to expose these traitorous scum. Already some different coverage between media outlets, of course.



Let's have faith that Trump knows what he is doing. He has been proven correct on almost everything he has said and done. What concerns me is that the investigation now rests with an Obama fuckwad.


I don't see why Sessions would recuse himself from such an investigation. He's still the AG.

Dumb move, imho, trying to pacify the cockroaches.


What I'm saying is that if there is an investigation into Obama wire tapping Trump, I fully expect AG Sessions to be a part of that investigation. He only recused himself from an investigation into possible ties between Trump and Russia. I don't see how that would apply here and to what the Obama administration might have done.


~Alan

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I'd say it's more likely the Russians tapping Trump, rather than the former administration tapping him.


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I'd say it's more likely the Russians tapping Trump, rather than the former administration tapping him.


I'd take that bet. Obama has no morals. Only a drive to destroy everything his dad told him was bad. Yup, I'd say Obama ordered it.
 
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