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This judge seems to have wanted to be President for a day by substituting his view of what he thought was the best national policy.

X'actly!

Perhaps Iran should file for injunctive relief to avoid the sanctions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4uiiy0qgA


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A question about rioters and protests.

Is it unconstitutional to pass a law that bans facial coverings at a protest? In other words, you can be arrested at a protest if you're wearing a mask or a hoodie with a bandanna.

Tony.


Well, it's illegal in Washington, D.C.


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Posts: 30408 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Report This Post
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Is it legal to not cooperate with federal immigration officers? I mean of I didn't cooperate with them i'm sure they could find something to charge me with.


Federalism is messy. Living in a dual sovereign system has always created difficult issues.

However, the issue of immigration has been confirmed as a national government function. Even so, state-level foot dragging has been a constant issue during our entire national history.

Usually, when such things occur, the federal government will withhold funds to coerce cooperation. Or, it will drive its authority home with pointed legislation.

Right now at the state level, the Governor says that Texas will pass state laws requiring cooperation - which could be done with personal penalties going beyond a loss of money to a political subdivision.

In the meantime, a constitutional sheriff, for instance, will often tell a federal official to go pound sand. But, where there is exclusive federal power such as in immigration, Congress could make more pointed rules, especially where uniform national security concerns are involved.

That a sovereign state or its subdivision decides to cooperate or not is legal, in a sense, because the federal government can't make a state entity work for them.

It's like the Kevin Costner line when speaking to his new wife: "How's this ever going to work if you won't do what I say?"


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I remember when a President federalized the National Guard and sent them in to maintain law and order, and enforce federal laws.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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I remember when a President federalized the National Guard and sent them in to maintain law and order, and enforce federal laws.

In listening to the Texas Governor this morning, he seemed to have a head of steam. I wouldn't be surprised to see legislation, cooperation and official removals from the State level.

Federal authority could be imposed but I was trying to describe whether non-cooperation was legal in a dual sovereign system.

Sending troops as in the Whiskey Rebellion can be effective but at a political cost.

Nowadays, federalizing the National Guard would cause quite a stir.


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All right, I'll say it: I voted for Donald J. Trump and are glad that I did!
 
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I remember when a President federalized the National Guard and sent them in to maintain law and order, and enforce federal laws.

In listening to the Texas Governor this morning, he seemed to have a head of steam. I wouldn't be surprised to see legislation, cooperation and official removals from the State level.

Federal authority could be imposed but I was trying to describe whether non-cooperation was legal in a dual sovereign system.

Sending troops as in the Whiskey Rebellion can be effective but at a political cost.

Nowadays, federalizing the National Guard would cause quite a stir.


It did then, too.

Read all about it:

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Under escort from the U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division, nine black students enter all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas. Three weeks earlier, Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus had surrounded the school with National Guard troops to prevent its federal court-ordered racial integration. After a tense standoff, President Dwight D. Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard and sent 1,000 army paratroopers to Little Rock to enforce the court order.


The account continues here.

I remember this very well. It made the headlines, as they say, and was on TV nightly.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The images and the story have been so often repeated. The National Guard was at Kent State, too.

But, do you suggest that a similar thing be done to force transfers of illegal alien criminals in every sanctuary area in the nation?

Little Rock is one thing but we are facing a diffuse problem dispersed throughout the country.

A state such as Texas, for instance, is attempting to fix things from within.

It is a difficult issue but "man-of-action" Trump will undoubtedly find a away to make something happen. Undaunted by recalcitrance seems to be one of our new President's traits.


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The images and the story have been so often repeated. The National Guard was at Kent State, too.

But, do you suggest that a similar thing be done to force transfers of illegal alien criminals in every sanctuary area in the nation?

Little Rock is one thing but we are facing a diffuse problem dispersed throughout the country.

A state such as Texas, for instance, is attempting to fix things from within.

It is a difficult issue but "man-of-action" Trump will undoubtedly find a away to make something happen. Undaunted by recalcitrance seems to be one of our new President's traits.


”Little Rock" was going on all over the south. It boiled over into force and defiance in Little Rock. The school district in my town was white only. The blacks had another system, school board, superintendent, schools, etc.

I'm not suggesting it be done, merely reminding us that threatened violence and defiance of federal law can be dealt with in that way, if it comes to it.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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All the above notwithstanding, Im curious to what the rank and file Deputy thinks... You would think a subtle (or not so subtle) projection of "no confidence" may help her understand.


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I knew I didn't waste my vote. Big Grin


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Justice Dept. formally appeals court ruling that suspended Trump's immigration ban

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Sigmund asked: Can someone explain the difference between a detainer and a warrant? Some Iowa Sheriffs (by no means supporters of illegal criminals) have questioned the detainers: "An ICE detainer is simply a request by a federal agency that has no legal authority," Clinton County Sheriff Rick Lincoln said."

For a few years the ACLU has been suiing agencies for holding ICE detainees just on an ICE detainer and not on criminal charges.
Here's how it works (at least for us): one of our deputies arrested a DUI last week who gave Mexico as his place of birth when he booked in.

Our jail is an "over 72 hour" ICE conract facility which means we can hold detainees WHO ARE IN ICE"S CUSTODY when they transport them to us. (Sidebar-we haven't held any of those since 2013). The booking deputy sent ICE an IAQ which alerts them of the possible criminal alien in our custody. They interviewed him over the phone and sent a "detainer".

The DUI charge carried a $1000 bond and after going to court he was able to post bond.

The ICE detainer requested that we hold him, but noted that if we were unable to, we should notify their office before he was released. We did that, but no ICE agent arrived to take him into custody and he walked out (with a court date).

Back in the day, before the ACLU got involved we would move the detainee from the county intake pod to the ICE detainee pod when the judge granted a Personal Recognizance bond. Now it seems we have to wait for conviction and a criminal sentence and then they will come up to take custody.

At present, no Colorado Sheriff will hold an ICE detainee on a detainer. We all require a warrant signed by a federal judge, and those don't happen.

Keep in mind-ICE detainees are not criminal inmates-they are civil detainees and as such they have certain rights that criminal inmates don't have just like pre-sentence inmates do.

(Sidebar #2-to be an over 72-hour facility for ICE, we have an annual 3-day, 79 page inspection peerformed by four retired prison wardens and other high-level prison professionals. We call them the Four Wardens of the Apocalypse. It sucks).

This whole "sanctuary city" movement sounds like a lot of posturing and posing to me. At it's most subservisive I guess it means those agencies won't send the IAQ for s suspected illegal alien...my experience is that even if they did, nothing would happen, so what's the big deal. On the street, the only cops who could investigate suspected illegals were the one who went through the former 287-G training. Saying they're "sanctuary cities" is a lot like saying "we put on pants in the morning!"
 
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Double Aught Zero is still hoping to get paid $15 an hour...


he doesn't have any skills worth $15 an hour

he should set his sights around the $7.50 an hour mark and hope for the best



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the Judge issued a TRO

they can still come

we don't have to let them in - they could be found as an undesirable for any number of reasons...

but the Judge will find he has overstepped his authority

and being from Seattle its not a surprise he has a much higher opinion of himself than what is warranted



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Despite the obvious left wing bias in this article, I nevertheless got a kick out of it.

A far right French town? Sounds lovely.

When a 'far right' French town paid homage to Donald Trump

3 February 2017 17:12 CET+01:00

The town of Béziers and it's far right mayor held what was effectively an homage to Donald Trump this week, writes Jonathan Miller, who was their to get the flavour of the atmosphere and the canapés.
Béziers has a bowling alley, a Harley Davidson dealer, even a diner serving cheeseburgers, but the Americanisation of this southern French city seemed complete this week as controversial mayor Robert Ménard hosted what was, in effect, a Donald Trump rally.

Ménard has been a thorn in the side of the French establishment ever since he was elected three years ago with the support of the National Front, although he is not himself a member of Marine Le Pen’s nationalistic, anti-immigrant party.

At last count, there were more than two dozen complaints against Ménard being investigated by the French authorities and after Monday night's homage to Trump, there could well be another.

Monday night’s event was held in the splendour of the Hotel du Lac in central Béziers, a magnificent hotel particulier once owned by one of the richest of the Languedoc wine dynasties and now the venue for official receptions in this southern French city of 75,000.

The guest of honour was Frank Mitchell, a Tennessee-based Christian historian whose theory is that Donald Trump will restore the American republic from the decadence, corruption, atheism, multiculturalism and hedonism produced by globalisation, which is itself a Marxist project.

Mitchell, it is fair to say, is not taken seriously by many academic historians, but in an epoch ruled by sentiment, not facts, he is nevertheless taken quite seriously by many on the religious right in America.

Mr Knight does not speak French but his prepared remarks, replete with biblical references and claims of a forthcoming Christian millennium, were translated and a condensed version of his new book on Trump was on sale in the foyer.

The star of the evening, however, was an American woman, Rosine Ghawji, who identified herself as founder and president of Working Mothers for Donald Trump and also the conductor of the Donald Trump En Français Facebook group, for which she seems eminently qualified, because her French was excellent and her passion for President Trump evident.

Saying she has known Trump for 28 years, she described the numerous financial and sexual allegations against him as media-concocted calumnies, saying he was a man of absolute integrity who works from 5 in the morning until midnight and is “afraid of nothing.”

Ménard at her side, her discourse was repeatedly interrupted by applause.

Ménard, who evidently sees Trump as an inspiration for his own political ambitions, praised the American “representatives” of Trump and the American president himself, for speaking plainly.

“We need men who speak with the words that are our own,” he said. He didn’t expect Trump to defend the interests of France, but to defend American interests. “And that’s what France needs, too - someone to defend France. "

At the last count, Ménard has had more than two dozen complaints levelled against him for such offenses as insulting immigrants in the Béziers municipal newspaper, opening the Béziers town hall to a religious-themed display during Christmas, and supposedly taking an illegal census to count immigrant children in Béziers public schools.

He was also blasted for putting up "sick" anti-migrant posters with the title "they are coming" and is facing trial for saying the number of Muslim pupils in the town's school was "a problem".

It will not be surprising if there is soon another complaint against him, for hosting an event that some might construe as a naked attack on laïcité, the French secular doctrine.

Others will complain that Ménard put the hospitality of the city of Béziers at the disposal of Trump’s representatives on the very day that the French government was condemning the American president for his tough new immigration rules.

None of this seemed to bother the guests, especially as the canapés were excellent (this is, after all, France).


Jonathan Miller is the author of the book: France, a nation on the edge of a nervous breakdown

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Every time you post something about France you always manage to include something about great food. Smile
 
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Fox News:

Justice Dept. formally appeals court ruling that suspended Trump's immigration ban

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/st...?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Here is Judge James Robart in a previous court case, where he ruled against the Seattle Police Union.




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The commies have done it again. Roll Eyes

Quick blurb from Fox:

BREAKING NEWS: US appeals court has denied the Justice Department's request to immediately reinstate Trump's refugee and immigration ban


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