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August 11, 2019, 09:49 AM
pbslinger
Need help identifying these objects.
They appear to be hand wrought, as evidenced by the way the bolt holes are formed by wrapping the steel. So possibly not a high production part from a factory.

I would guess that they bolted underneath something and held a flat bar. The pivoting latch holding the bar and allowed it to be removed if needed.

I'll guess the bar guided fabric or paper in a manufacturing process or maybe for gift wrapping.

There is a little bit of decorative look to them, which could mean it is for use in a home or store. Or that's just the way they did things long ago, adding flourishes even when they weren't needed. Like pin striping machinery.
August 11, 2019, 09:57 AM
H&K-Guy
Those are the brackets for the mounting of Buckaroo Banzai's inventions, and for Shifting the Oscillation Overthruster into warp speed, thus giving access to the Eighth Dimension.

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August 11, 2019, 10:16 AM
erj_pilot
Send them to the "My Mechanics" guy from YouTube and he'll restore them to brand new condition, whatever they are...



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August 11, 2019, 10:39 AM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by Chris42:
If it helps, one looks to be cast iron and the other cast aluminum. This should narrow their time of production. Cast aluminum was much rarer before 1900 (approx.)


If cast AL, it would be very weak. They are both made of iron or steel, one of them with the finish gone.

quote:
Originally posted by roarindan:
roof jacks


No, roof jacks are adjustable for pitch, and much larger.

quote:
Originally posted by pbslinger:
They appear to be hand wrought, as evidenced by the way the bolt holes are formed by wrapping the steel. So possibly not a high production part from a factory.

I would guess that they bolted underneath something and held a flat bar. The pivoting latch holding the bar and allowed it to be removed if needed.

I'll guess the bar guided fabric or paper in a manufacturing process or maybe for gift wrapping.

There is a little bit of decorative look to them, which could mean it is for use in a home or store. Or that's just the way they did things long ago, adding flourishes even when they weren't needed. Like pin striping machinery.


This is the most plausible explanation.


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August 11, 2019, 11:33 AM
Chris42
Will a magnet stick to both of them?

How tall? How wide? Thick or thin?

Perhaps brackets for holding a rod in a General Store - wrapping paper instead of bags for purchases? Rod ends would need to be rectangular, preventing runaway unraveling of paper.
August 11, 2019, 01:42 PM
flashguy
I still think they are wall hangers for plants.

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August 11, 2019, 11:57 PM
nighthawk
Vulcan nut scratcher.


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August 12, 2019, 08:11 AM
Jim Shugart
I heard from the friend who originally asked the question. An antique dealer told him that these are 'bell brackets'.

They're mounted upside down from the way they're shown in the pic. The bell has a horizontal bar attached to the top which locks into the rectangular spaces.

I've not been able to find a photo of this, but it makes sense.



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August 12, 2019, 08:22 AM
gearhounds
Whatever they are, I agree they look to be upside down. The little swivel part looks like it was meant to rotate down and keep some kind of flat bar stock from getting out of the channel but still be easy to rotate easily to facilitate quick removal of same, since it wouldn't lock in place.

I'm still waiting for Bisley to break in proclaiming (convincingly) that it is a pondo-bracket or some such Big Grin




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August 12, 2019, 08:47 AM
Flashlightboy
I can't help with everything but one of those items looks like a glass patio table.
August 12, 2019, 09:05 PM
ffips
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
I heard from the friend who originally asked the question. An antique dealer told him that these are 'bell brackets'.

They're mounted upside down from the way they're shown in the pic. The bell has a horizontal bar attached to the top which locks into the rectangular spaces.

I've not been able to find a photo of this, but it makes sense.


Did a Google image search for bell brackets. Now, while this example is quite large, the design of the brackets aren't drastically different.

So, it seem plausible that these smaller brackets could suspend a smaller bell rather than support a larger one?

Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of the old gameshow "The Liars Club."
August 12, 2019, 09:21 PM
wrightd
Medieval birth control for rich people.

I should probably go to bed now.




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August 13, 2019, 04:52 AM
Jelly
I seen something very similar to that when I was a kid way back when, in Montana. But they are missing a steel rod. They were used for hanging rolls of butcher paper.
August 13, 2019, 08:17 AM
pbslinger
quote:
Originally posted by Jelly:
I seen something very similar to that when I was a kid way back when, in Montana. But they are missing a steel rod. They were used for hanging rolls of butcher paper.



While doing an image search for "antique butcher paper hanger" I saw something similar listed as an "antique butcher meat rack"

My best guess now is these brackets hang on a wall and a flat bar with hooks for hanging meat goes in the slots. So the bar can be removed for transporting the meat hanging, or for cleaning.
August 13, 2019, 02:48 PM
Eponym
I agree.
See an example here, image 2 of 4.
August 13, 2019, 03:21 PM
Oz_Shadow
It doesn't appear it bolts to something flat but rather a larger diameter round beam
August 14, 2019, 07:29 AM
downtownv
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
I have friends, Epsteinesque though they may be.


LOL I was referring to people asking questions for a friend. You know the guy who wants to know the answer to a question but is too ashamed to admit that he is the one with the problem. To me the objects looked like some sort of restraint device. LOL


That's Funny! There's an ED commercial like that.


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August 14, 2019, 10:49 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Jelly:
I seen something very similar to that when I was a kid way back when, in Montana. But they are missing a steel rod. They were used for hanging rolls of butcher paper.
This is what I was thinking, wrapping paper was my first thought. From a time when your package would get wrapped up and tied with string.


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August 14, 2019, 03:18 PM
Some Shot
These support the tear-off blade for the butcher paper dispenser. The bar can be removed easily for sharpening or replacement.