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A tourniquet can save your life. GRAPHIC, NSFW, lots of blood

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April 10, 2018, 02:03 PM
parabellum
A tourniquet can save your life. GRAPHIC, NSFW, lots of blood
I'm not saying that this shitbag needed to be stopped from bleeding out, but watch where the officer keeps his tourniquet, and watch the difficulty he has applying it. Real world, gentlemen. Without a tourniquet, this crook would have been dead in under two minutes.



A tourniquet can save your life.
April 10, 2018, 02:13 PM
Sig2340
Blood is as slippery as hydraulic fluid or glycol.

It is tough to deal with once your hands are coated by it.

Did the bleeder live or was that too much blood loss?





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Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
April 10, 2018, 02:16 PM
parabellum
He survived
April 10, 2018, 02:21 PM
MikeGLI
I'm assuming that was a femoral artery hit?




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April 10, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jimbo54
I'm wondering how many time he was hit. The cop emptied a magazine.

That is a great way to carry a tourniquet.

Jim


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April 10, 2018, 02:27 PM
PHPaul
No gloves?

I'm guessing time was an issue?

Not at all sure I'd want to be working in that situation without gloves.




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April 10, 2018, 02:28 PM
SigSAC
Considering everything officers are carrying on their belts and in their pockets, strapping one to the boot has become very common.
April 10, 2018, 02:29 PM
GT-40DOC
Looks that way.....they can really unload a lot of blood when opened up, along with increased BP and pulse!!
April 10, 2018, 02:33 PM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
He survived


Homes should thank that officer for saving his life.

That's at easily a unit and a half of blood on the ground.





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
April 10, 2018, 02:44 PM
tigereye313
Thanks for the reminder. I need to get mine out and practice again...




April 10, 2018, 02:45 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
He survived


That's amazing considering that huge amount of blood on the ground like that.

We were trained in the Army before the advent of these carry-able tourniquets that a piece of rope, a shoelace even, or a belt can all be used as one. You'd have to use a stick or something else like that to crank it down tight enough.


April 10, 2018, 02:51 PM
1967Goat
Man, that was intense. Reason #721 I could never be a cop, having to deal with those shit bags. Mad Sir, I'm dying, I'm dying...

When I took hunters ed, they told us if you choose to use a tourniquet, it is most likely going to happen that that person will lose the limb. Think before you use it. From a hunting perspective, chances are you will be out in the woods and miles from anyone.
April 10, 2018, 02:53 PM
BBMW
News report for background.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/...-in-north-las-vegas/
April 10, 2018, 03:30 PM
mark60
Damn that was a lot of blood. Great way to carry a tourniquet.
April 10, 2018, 03:40 PM
Sig209
those hollowpoints definitely worked

should have put his nitrile gloves on first. i hope that dirtbag didn't have TB / hepatitis / hiv / etc

that cop deserves a medal

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April 10, 2018, 03:42 PM
Sigmanic
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
News report for background.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/...-in-north-las-vegas/




It's nice to have the backstory along with the video. The scum had it coming. I couldn't figure out what happened to the woman's wrist until I saw the story. Very professional work by the officers!
April 10, 2018, 03:51 PM
GCE61
Great reminder Para. I have CAT's in my shooting bags, hunting pack, and car.
My sons both shoot and I gave them CAT's for xmas to put in their packs.

You just never know.
April 10, 2018, 03:53 PM
chellim1
When the cops give you an order... listen and obey!



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April 10, 2018, 04:49 PM
JohnCourage
Intense. The amount of blood pooling under his leg was shocking. You hear how fast you can bleed out but man, that really drives it home.


JC
April 10, 2018, 05:12 PM
sigfreund
Regarding tourniquets, they were very thoroughly discussed in a first responder (i.e., LE) aid class I attended a couple of years ago. The instructor, who was the head of the trauma department of a major Denver hospital, made several points.

It’s only been in relatively recent times that truly effective tourniquets have been developed, and they all use some sort of windlass tightening system. He quoted a report from the Civil War that originally pointed out that the buckle type tourniquets used through the Viet Nam War (and perhaps later) were essentially worthless. He also had quite a bit to say and demonstrate with graphic photos of war casualties about improvised methods. One in particular showed how ineffective one made of a thin piece of cord (shoelace, possibly) had been. If one must be improvised, a broader strap is necessary. C.A.T.s are 1 1/2 inches wide for a reason.

He also addressed the myths associated with tourniquets. I clearly remember being told in high school (50+ years ago) that they should be loosened periodically. That has been thoroughly discredited for a long time, but what is still believed is that they pose a great danger of limb damage. In the first place, of course, what’s better: limb muscle damage or death? A true “duh” question, but one that still gets people befuddled. To the point, though, he said that they can be left in place for hours as has happened in military situations without causing serious problems.

As far as carrying a tourniquet on one’s boot, I haven’t tried to research it myself, but does anyone know how that’s usually done? Are there special carriers for the purpose?




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