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I'm not quite there yet, but a walking cane is in my future. There's on line and DVD instruction available in the defensive use of a cane, but I'm wondering if I should be looking for personal instruction. Don't see mention that type training in the local MA advertising.
If I have to go the video route, whose instruction would you recommend?
 
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someone on this board posted a link to "cane fu" or "canemasters". It was specialty canes and I think had some links to training maybe..


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In my MA school we were trained in the 6'/4'staff, jo stick, and cane among other common weapons. There's some very good techniques with the cane for blocking, striking, and very effective take downs and joint locks. It's a very effective weapon and easy to use with some good training.


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If you're looking for local training check out some Hapkido schools. Hapkido has some cane self-defense techniques/applications.

For instructional videos, Michael Janich usually comes highly rated. He has a video on using a cane for self defense. That might be worth looking into.



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someone on this board posted a link to "cane fu" or "canemasters". It was specialty canes and I think had some links to training maybe..


It wasn't me, but here is a link:

http://www.canemasters.com/ind...74_63&products_id=78
 
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Find someone local definitely. Took staff as a kid and my instructor could F someone up royally with one, quickly disabling a gun or knife wielding assailant, AND taking his legs out. So fast you'd need to record it and watch it in slo mo. Nunchaku also. Some canes are built with a nice spear built in like a sheath. Two for one.



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Find someone local definitely. Took staff as a kid and my instructor could F someone up royally with one, quickly disabling a gun or knife wielding assailant, AND taking his legs out. So fast you'd need to record it and watch it in slo mo. Nunchaku also. Some canes are built with a nice spear built in like a sheath. Two for one.


AIR, nunchuks are illegal in several jurisdictions, Virginia among them.


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Hapkido has cane techniques in the syllabus/curriculum, as previously mentioned.

Some HKD master have their own style and skills to add; a cane seminar would be best for tips, as most HKD schools will require one to take the entire curriculum.

For the cane to work effectively, the handle has to have particular curve and there is a litany to be found online, discussions on what works best.

Depending on your ability and the time spent learning, the need to block or lock a wrist, throw and disable, may not always present itself in convenient situations, unless the opponent is tied to a chair.

You could do just as well with a well built walking stick and think about strikes to knees, wrists and soft tissue areas.



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Advantage to the cane: Its airport friendly. Like any weapons system, it has advantages and disadvantages. Training is always a good thing.
If you go with a cane, try out an Amish hickory one from Lehmans Hardware. That's the one I use.


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Even better than a cane is a trekking pole.

I reached the point of needing a cane and went with a trekking pole instead because, in no particular order (1) you should not bear weight on a cane, (2) I am too vain to use a cane, (3) my trekking pole is acceptable to everyone (e.g., TSA) as a walking aid, and (4) my carbon fiber, tungsten-steel pointed pole is longer, has a strap to attach it to me, and will make one helluva an epee.



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Advantage to the cane: Its airport friendly. Like any weapons system, it has advantages and disadvantages. Training is always a good thing.
If you go with a cane, try out an Amish hickory one from Lehmans Hardware. That's the one I use.


Or perhaps a tactical aluminum cane.

http://www.solidaluminumcane.com/

Bladed cane...do not take these to the airport or use where prohibited!

http://www.budk.com/Gil-Hibben...tom-Sword-Cane-33350

http://www.budk.com/Cold-Steel...ty-Sword-Cane--10725
 
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unless the opponent is tied to a chair.


Ha! Not likely.
Posted a request on thumbtack and a local guy responded. No idea if he's qualified. We'll see. Thanks for the help.
 
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There are quite a few things you can learn about the use of a short staff - cane.

Still, proper training is good to go with it.

Awareness that comes from time on the mat and basics can not be overlooked, as is foot position, again basics.

That said, learning something beats knowing nothing, so go for it - but consider joining a Dojo to learn more.
 
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This one gang kept wanting me to join because I'm pretty good with a bo staff.


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There are too many choices. I'm getting paralysis from analysis. And, all the different types of MA seem to require the strength and flexibility that is in limited supply. Michael Janich's approach seems to be the simplest most straight forward approach, but the closest trainer of his method is in Amarillo and I'm just north of Houston...
Well, the hunt goes on.
 
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http://www.functionalselfdefense.org/kali/stick-sword

Kendo and Filipino martial arts would be good starting point.

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http://www.functionalselfdefense.org/kali/stick-sword

Kendo and Filipino martial arts would be good starting point.

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I forgot to mention I carry a P320 in addition to the trekking pole.

You should too (if you can).



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You can't get the skills dialed without repetition and instruction with corrective coaching. Find someone local. Even if there is a kendo school it would be helpful but I'm assuming that if you are going to need a cane you may have some limitations. If you decide to do it yourself, video yourself physically training so that you can observe your motion and adjust.
 
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Greg Ellifritz of Active Response training whether stand alone or at TDI does a great one day cane class. I've trained with Greg, he's on the A list of trainers.


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