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Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross joined Neil Cavuto on "Your World" to react to President Donald Trump pulling the U.S. out of the Paris Climate Accord.

Ross said that the pact, which aims to reduce fossil fuel emissions, is not about combating climate change, but instead about transferring wealth from the U.S. to other countries.

He said he expects that the global community will be upset with the U.S. withdrawing from the agreement.

"Anytime that people are taking money out of your pocket and you make them put it back in, they're not going to be happy," Ross said. "And that's what's happening here."

He explained that not only would the pact lead to millions of Americans losing their jobs in the coming years, but it also tasks the U.S. with reducing its carbon footprint by 20 percent.

Meantime, major polluters like China and India are under no environmental obligation for years.

"The only ones who are making an economic sacrifice were the United States," Ross said. "That doesn't sound to me like a climate accord. It simply sounds like a transfer of wealth from the United States to other countries."
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Hell, we are way ahead of the Pact countries in reducing our carbon footprint. I was stationed in Germany in the 80s and had to remove my catalytic converter when I shipped my car there. There was no unleaded fuel to be found in Europe and all of their autos had no converters installed. Also most of their factories did not have smoke scrubbers installed but we did in the States.


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Let me see, the Libs are up in arms and their heads are about to explode..........................Ok then, I am good with our President's decision.


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Originally posted by ChuckFinley:....Ross said that the pact, which aims to reduce fossil fuel emissions, is not about combating climate change, but instead about transferring wealth from the U.S. to other countries....


I might suggest another goal of climate control, to give the gov't more power over our daily lives, under the guise of saving the universe.




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Meantime, major polluters like China and India are under no environmental obligation for years.

And since their shit ends up on our West coast, it's then our pollution.

To hell with the stupid lefty tree hugging dipshits. Climate is going to do what it wants, when it wants no matter how many hippy tears flood the streets.


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Yep, another win for us at the expense of the people here and overseas who feed from the trough the US pays to fill. Thank you President Trump.


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Great move,you folks see how much that crap was going to cost us Americans.
 
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Okay, that's off the list. Now lets look at the UN.

Jim


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I will have to reward this with a donation to Trump 2020, Keep America Great!
 
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Trump just saved-us from taking it dry, right up the keister for 20 trillion dollars.


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Okay, that's off the list. Now lets look at the UN.

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Sidenote on the UN. The US founding docs divide and separate power, controls those in power through voting. The UN founding docs concentrate power into the hands of a few (Security Council) and keeps that power away from the direct vote of the people.




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Anyone hear that some Eurotrash bureaucrat is saying it will take the U.S. 4 years to withdraw from the Paris accords?

I hope Trump has the guy's GPS coordinates dialed in.




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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
Okay, that's off the list. Now lets look at the UN.

Jim


Sidenote on the UN. The US founding docs divide and separate power, controls those in power through voting. The UN founding docs concentrate power into the hands of a few (Security Council) and keeps that power away from the direct vote of the people.


That's what I thought too Jimbo54, now that PCA is dead let's get the UN out of this country.




 
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Hell, we are way ahead of the Pact countries in reducing our carbon footprint.
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As I understood it, that doesn't count. Whatever lead we have, we were still expected to reduce our footprint by 20%. Much harder and expensive to do if you've already taken a big chunk out of the carbon footprint. And as said the big polluters, only had to commit to starting their programs in the future, as in decades in the future.


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CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT! It is part of the cycle that involves O2, which animals (and humans) breathe in, and CO2, which animals breathe out and green plants take in, returning O2 to the atmosphere. Reducing CO2 effectively cuts down on the amount of plant life possible and the regeneration of O2.

It is fine to want to control true pollutants, and the human activities that produce them, but CO2 is not a pollutant. It is a necessary part of life.

As to whether or not an increase in CO2 levels contributes to "Global Warming", I am very skeptical about that. The climate of Earth has warmed and cooled many times over its lifetime and during most of that time there were no humans present. We are presently in a time when our Sun is producing more heat than before, and I'd think that had a lot to do with any warming that is happening (even Mars is reported to be getting warmer--how are we causing that?).

Anthropomorphic Global Warming is just a "cause" being promoted to allow governments to take even more control of our lives and livelihood in the name of "saving the Earth", when in reality it's just a scheme for transferring wealth and power.

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(even Mars is reported to be getting warmer--how are we causing that?).

Spirit and Opportunity.

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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
Okay, that's off the list. Now lets look at the UN.

Jim


Hopefully as we wave goodby to them as they leave the USA!!!!!!!!


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Originally posted by flashguy:
CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT! It is part of the cycle that involves O2, which animals (and humans) breathe in, and CO2, which animals breathe out and green plants take in, returning O2 to the atmosphere. Reducing CO2 effectively cuts down on the amount of plant life possible and the regeneration of O2.

It is fine to want to control true pollutants, and the human activities that produce them, but CO2 is not a pollutant. It is a necessary part of life.

As to whether or not an increase in CO2 levels contributes to "Global Warming", I am very skeptical about that. The climate of Earth has warmed and cooled many times over its lifetime and during most of that time there were no humans present. We are presently in a time when our Sun is producing more heat than before, and I'd think that had a lot to do with any warming that is happening (even Mars is reported to be getting warmer--how are we causing that?).

Anthropomorphic Global Warming is just a "cause" being promoted to allow governments to take even more control of our lives and livelihood in the name of "saving the Earth", when in reality it's just a scheme for transferring wealth and power.

flashguy


Come on!!

Here you are using facts and logic to resist the idiocy of the wild eyed left in this country.

Smile


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Originally posted by flashguy:....
As to whether or not an increase in CO2 levels contributes to "Global Warming", I am very skeptical about that. The climate of Earth has warmed and cooled many times over its lifetime and during most of that time there were no humans present. We are presently in a time when our Sun is producing more heat than before, and I'd think that had a lot to do with any warming that is happening (even Mars is reported to be getting warmer--how are we causing that?).


I must disagree. We all know the Earth's warming and cooling cycles from the beginning were caused by white males, mostly Republican, driving their SUV's. Smile

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....Anthropomorphic Global Warming is just a "cause" being promoted to allow governments to take even more control of our lives and livelihood in the name of "saving the Earth", when in reality it's just a scheme for transferring wealth and power.

flashguy

That needs a repeat.




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