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Elk downs helicopter in rural Utah

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February 13, 2018, 08:44 PM
Sigmund
Elk downs helicopter in rural Utah
Yes, way! The link has a photo I'm not smart enough to post.

https://www.deseretnews.com/ar...-wasatch-county.html

Elk fells helicopter in remote Wasatch County

FRUITLAND, Duchesne County — A pilot and passenger from Australia sustained only small cuts and bruises when an elk jumped and severed the tail rotor of their helicopter Monday evening near Currant Creek in Wasatch County.

The pair was attempting to net the animal, Wasatch County Search and Rescue said on Facebook.

Few details were immediately released, and it was not clear how the elk fared. First responders from Fruitland evaluated the two aboard the helicopter.

"Not something you see everyday when an Elk brings down a chopper," the rescue group wrote in the Facebook post.

The Utah Division of Wildlife Resources was investigating.
February 13, 2018, 08:48 PM
Lord Vaalic
Well, there's a headline that you don't see every day....




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February 13, 2018, 08:50 PM
PorterN
score one for the Elk.

glad no one was seriously injured.



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February 13, 2018, 08:53 PM
walkinghorse
So no meat ?


Jim
February 13, 2018, 08:53 PM
LastCubScout
That's too bad. I always liked the Hughes 500, whoops, McDonnell Douglas 500, I mean. It doesn't look too damaged though.
February 13, 2018, 09:10 PM
hoppes no9
My question is, what the HELL were Australians doing netting elk in Utah? Was this on private land? By permit? So many questions...
February 13, 2018, 09:19 PM
Il Cattivo
OK, now I'm impressed.
February 13, 2018, 10:07 PM
SapperSteel
quote:
Originally posted by hoppes no9:
My question is, what the HELL were Australians doing netting elk in Utah? Was this on private land? By permit? So many questions...


This very brief coverage in the Idaho State Journal provides just a little more detail (see items I've bolded): LINK

quote:
Leaping elk crashes low-flying research helicopter
8 hrs ago

Authorities say a leaping elk brought down a research helicopter trying to capture the animal in the mountains of eastern Utah.

[Go to URL to view the photo] Photo courtesy of Wasatch County Sheriff's Office

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Authorities say a leaping elk brought down a research helicopter trying to capture the animal in the mountains of eastern Utah.

Wasatch County authorities say the elk jumped into the chopper's tail rotor as it flew about 10 feet above ground, trying to capture the animal with a net.

The two people on board weren't seriously hurt, but wildlife officials say the elk died of its injuries.

The state-contracted Texas-based crew was trying to capture and sedate the elk so they could give it a tracking collar and research its movements about 90 miles east of Salt Lake City.

Mark Hadley with the state Division of Wildlife Resources says the state helicopters are frequently used to monitor remote wildlife and this is the first such accident in Utah.


Apparently, one or more members of the contracted research crew is an Australian (if the initial coverage/first report is correct).


Thanks,

Sap
February 13, 2018, 10:52 PM
gw3971
quote:
Originally posted by walkinghorse:
So no meat ?


I guarantee someone there got a salvage tag.
February 13, 2018, 11:08 PM
old rugged cross
idiots.



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February 14, 2018, 01:14 AM
Rightwire
They should probably stay away from 'roos' too.






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February 14, 2018, 01:24 AM
WingedMedic
Wow! You’ve really got to watch out for those Elk out here in Utah! A couple of days ago I had a patient who lost a leg in an Elk hunting accident, and now they’re taking down helicopters?!?!
February 14, 2018, 05:53 AM
10-7 leo
That would be an entertaining Farmer's Insurance commercial!



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February 14, 2018, 09:20 AM
Sig2340
It was a kamakazi tomato!





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February 14, 2018, 09:29 AM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by old rugged cross:
idiots.


So, if I have this right: They were trying to NET a living elk that weighs several hundred pounds, so they can sedate it?!?!?

Last time I saw such antics was that they sedated the animal before doing much of anything else.

Ya know, dart it, wait for the sedative to kick in, put the radio collar on it, wake it up and let it go about its business.

Is there a plague of stupid in process? People seem to get dumber, and dumber, and dumber.


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February 14, 2018, 09:49 AM
RogueJSK
Quite the opposite of being dumb, it seems like netting is a very viable plan, and is done routinely all around the world. But like with anything in the news, you just don't usually hear about the 99.9+% of helicopter netting attempts that go right.

There are lots of photos and articles online involving netting elk and other animals, as well as some videos on YouTube, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGp2okWpyJg

I know you're an elk hunter, but have you ever tried to dart an elk? Especially from a helicopter?

Neither have I. But I suspect it's not anywhere near as easy as sitting back at 200 yards with a .308. Wink

Tranquilizer darts are inherently short-range, and relatively slow and inaccurate (compared to bullets). Throw in the fact that if trying to dart an animal from a helicopter, the dart would have to contend with the chopper's massive blade wash/downdraft.

In addition, it appears that tranquilizers have to be tailored to the size/sex/species of the animal, and sedatives take a while to wear off. Whereas nets allow a wide range of animal sizes/sexes/species to be safely trapped with a one-size-fits-most implement. And they can be quickly released once tagged, without having to wait around for a sedative to wear off. No chemical side-effects either. Plus, the nets can be reused and reloaded into the net guns, so they can net and release multiple animals with the same net per outing, which I suspect makes it significantly cheaper than tranquilizers too.

Even if they do end up sedating the elk, it would be more easily accomplished once it's already netted and contained, and the sedation could be done on the ground.
February 14, 2018, 10:45 AM
trebor44
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Quite the opposite of being dumb, it seems like netting is a very viable plan, and is done routinely all around the world. But like with anything in the news, you just don't usually hear about the 99.9+% of helicopter netting attempts that go right.

There are lots of photos and articles online involving netting elk and other animals, as well as some videos on YouTube, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGp2okWpyJg

I know you're an elk hunter, but have you ever tried to dart an elk? Especially from a helicopter?

Neither have I. But I suspect it's not anywhere near as easy as sitting back at 200 yards with a .308. Wink

Tranquilizer darts are inherently short-range, and relatively slow and inaccurate (compared to bullets). Throw in the fact that if trying to dart an animal from a helicopter, the dart would have to contend with the chopper's massive blade wash/downdraft.

In addition, it appears that tranquilizers have to be tailored to the size/sex/species of the animal, and sedatives take a while to wear off. Whereas nets allow a wide range of animal sizes/sexes/species to be safely trapped with a one-size-fits-most implement. And they can be quickly released once tagged, without having to wait around for a sedative to wear off. No chemical side-effects either. Plus, the nets can be reused and reloaded into the net guns, so they can net and release multiple animals with the same net per outing, which I suspect makes it significantly cheaper than tranquilizers too.

Even if they do end up sedating the elk, it would be more easily accomplished once it's already netted and contained, and the sedation could be done on the ground.


"Wasatch County authorities say the elk jumped into the chopper's tail rotor as it flew about 10 feet above ground, trying to capture the animal with a net."

Superelk? or did it just have wings. Elk are not jumpers and here in Idaho you have to shoot them so you can 'dart' them! LOL! Yeah the adults can clear a range fence but just barely! They tend to drag their hind legs across.


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February 14, 2018, 11:14 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by trebor44:
"Wasatch County authorities say the elk jumped into the chopper's tail rotor as it flew about 10 feet above ground, trying to capture the animal with a net."

Superelk? or did it just have wings. Elk are not jumpers... Yeah the adults can clear a range fence but just barely!


According to National Geographic, male elk are on average ~5 feet tall at the shoulder, plus another ~4 feet of neck, head, and antlers above the shoulder.

Wouldn't be too tough for a 9 foot tall elk to touch something 10 feet off the ground. Wink

If they can clear a fence (even barely), they can definitely jump more than 1 foot!

Besides, it wouldn't even necessarily involve much of a jump, depending on the other factors, such as if it was a larger than average bull, it reared on its hind legs, there was a rise in elevation (large rock, small hill, etc.), and/or the tail rotor dipped during the helicopter's maneuvering.
February 14, 2018, 11:48 AM
Sig2340
Just think what might have happened if it was a Knights of Pythias.





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February 14, 2018, 01:40 PM
trebor44
A ten foot tall elk: http://www.newser.com/story/25...this-helicopter.html

Sounds like human stupidity to me.


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