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Funny Man
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I'm honestly getting really worried for the next 10-15 years when these idiots are actually in a position with some amount of power.




Yes, this is the real fear! They are the up and coming demographic, and these stories are all too frequent. Look how far Bernie got.


I get what you are saying and don't disagree. But, as usually happens with young people, most of them will change their attitude when confronted with the real world of paying taxes, owning a home, having kids, etc. At least that's my hope!


Yes, if you are young and conservative you have no heart. If you are old and liberal you have no brain Wink


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Lets see where this is in ten years. Unintended consequences in ten years the enrollment of blacks will be really high. I mean heck if someone offered to pay for my college that would be a huge motivator to attend that school.

Now cost increase for others to help pay for the free students. So the paying students decrease and the free ones increase. Yep I see where this is going.


And I will go out on a limb here and speculate that the graduation rates for these 'free black students' will be really LOW. After they lower the standards for admission to let in all the new prospective 'honor students,' that is.

From what I understand, people who get free education don't value it, and drop out at higher rates than those who pay for it.

This 'entitlement' crap is way out of hand.



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While this would never fly, how about free tuition for those with 1200 or higher SAT scores and the free part continues as long as they maintain a B+ or 3.5 GPA or better? Low score? Immediate tuition bill, due Now.

The idea would work, for those willing to work. There would be tantrums from the others however...
 
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It's always easy to vote to give away someone else's money.

That's the allure of socialism - it's always 'the rich' or 'corporations' who have to pay (in their fantasy world).



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I guess if I were college age I could self-identify as black.



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Originally posted by comet24:
Lets see where this is in ten years. Unintended consequences in ten years the enrollment of blacks will be really high. I mean heck if someone offered to pay for my college that would be a huge motivator to attend that school.

Now cost increase for others to help pay for the free students. So the paying students decrease and the free ones increase. Yep I see where this is going.


And I will go out on a limb here and speculate that the graduation rates for these 'free black students' will be really LOW.


Why are some of you actually taking this seriously, as if black students will now get a free college education because of this stupid vote by a bunch of ignorant children? It means nothing.


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I guess if I were college age I could self-identify as black.
How come I cant picture this ? Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by comet24:
Lets see where this is in ten years. Unintended consequences in ten years the enrollment of blacks will be really high. I mean heck if someone offered to pay for my college that would be a huge motivator to attend that school.

Now cost increase for others to help pay for the free students. So the paying students decrease and the free ones increase. Yep I see where this is going.


And I will go out on a limb here and speculate that the graduation rates for these 'free black students' will be really LOW. After they lower the standards for admission to let in all the new prospective 'honor students,' that is.

From what I understand, people who get free education don't value it, and drop out at higher rates than those who pay for it.

This 'entitlement' crap is way out of hand.
Absolutely. They should just drop the whole idea now and become rap artists. Big Grin
 
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Why does this remind me of Bernie's plan for free electricity?

 
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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
It's always easy to vote to give away someone else's money.

That's the allure of socialism - it's always 'the rich' or 'corporations' who have to pay (in their fantasy world).

"The next time Bernie Sanders or some Ivy League talking head wants to pump up the joys of socialism, maybe point them to Venezuela."
*See Venezuela thread.
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/5490099224



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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:...Why are some of you actually taking this seriously, as if black students will now get a free college education because of this stupid vote by a bunch of ignorant children? It means nothing.


Au contraire. It means those college students have no grasp of reality.




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Why are some of you actually taking this seriously, as if black students will now get a free college education because of this stupid vote by a bunch of ignorant children? It means nothing.
Because its fun to get wound up over this stupid nonsense. Smile

Unfortunately, this is the reason the relationship between my college age son and I has deteriorated so severely. He's begun to buy into the twaddle these people are shoveling and is offended when I tell him that in general, the current generation of college students are totally worthless. I see it day in and day out as we interview these morons for open positions we're trying to fill.


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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
It's always easy to vote to give away someone else's money.

That's the allure of socialism - it's always 'the rich' or 'corporations' who have to pay (in their fantasy world).

"The next time Bernie Sanders or some Ivy League talking head wants to pump up the joys of socialism, maybe point them to Venezuela."
*See Venezuela thread.
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/5490099224
Apparently you missed the memo. Allow me to summarize for you. Venezuela and all the other failed socialist regimes only failed because they weren't implemented by the right people. Roll Eyes


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Who exactly would be entitled?
Blood testing? A certain percentage of African blood?



"The purpose of this was to get a conversation started... about reparations owed to blacks."

Small details,... need to be worked out, nuanced.... it wouldn't hurt anybody....
Roll Eyes



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Let's look at this in a different light: A vast majority of these students already get a "free" education because everything is paid for by their parents. Why not have the same available for black students?

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:....And I will go out on a limb here and speculate that the graduation rates for these 'free black students' will be really LOW. After they lower the standards for admission to let in all the new prospective 'honor students,' that is.

From what I understand, people who get free education don't value it, and drop out at higher rates than those who pay for it.....


I think that is an important point. That which comes too easily we esteem too lightly. Then there is the "soft bias" of low expectations. If a school did adopt this policy, they might attract and graduate more Black students. But the degrees would have little or no value in the workplace.




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Let's look at this in a different light: A vast majority of these students already get a "free" education because everything is paid for by their parents. Why not have the same available for black students?

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I agree, let me know when you find their parents and I will help demand they pay for their kids shit.....


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Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.

I might not look it, being a husky near-six-foot former redhead, but MY ancestors were African, just like uh, EVERYBODY else's, that is.

So where's MY free shit?

I demand, as my right, a recompense of the couple of hundred thousand dollars it cost to get MY degrees......

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But the degrees would have little or no value in the workplace.
^^^This times 1,000. A college degree used to mean that the applicant was at least diligent and motivated enough to get through four years of education with a good GPA and some other accomplishments (internships, community leadership roles, etc), which would be used to try and assess whether they would be worth the risk of hiring. Give everyone a free ride and virtually guaranteed graduation, and business will have no basic yard stick with which to measure students for job opportunities. Its hard enough right now in the current environment to try and find decent candidates for open entry level positions.


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We are raising a generation of tyrants. Get ready.



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