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It is rumoured that Linda Attagirl Sarsour is headed to Iran to fight in the streets for human rights and lesbian causes.

"She will leave her comfortable lifestyle to fight in the trenches, and in the streets, and in the beaches, and in the penthouses", a spokecisgender close to her said.


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It is rumoured that Linda Attagirl Sarsour is headed to Iran to fight in the streets for human rights and lesbian causes.

"She will leave her comfortable lifestyle to fight in the trenches, and in the streets, and in the beaches, and in the penthouses", a spokecisgender close to her said.


What bullshit is this? A poor joke? Link, please.


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It is rumoured that Linda Attagirl Sarsour is headed to Iran to fight in the streets for human rights and lesbian causes.

"She will leave her comfortable lifestyle to fight in the trenches, and in the streets, and in the beaches, and in the penthouses", a spokecisgender close to her said.


Unless things have changed a great deal since I was there, she will not enjoy her stay there!!!!!!!!!!

Her lifestyle was not popular, to say the least.


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It is rumoured that Linda Attagirl Sarsour is headed to Iran to fight in the streets for human rights and lesbian causes.

"She will leave her comfortable lifestyle to fight in the trenches, and in the streets, and in the beaches, and in the penthouses", a spokecisgender close to her said.


What bullshit is this? A poor joke? Link, please.


Oh man, what can I say? The breaking news caught me off-guard too...


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Alireza Nader (Senior Policy Analyst Rand Corp, Iran, Middle East):

Unconfirmed reports that #iranuprising has taken over government offices in the city of Izeh in Iran and is fighting security forces. Hard to tell, but there seems to be significant fighting all over Iran.

https://twitter.com/AlirezaNad...s/947592651422957569
 
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Lets say this is the begining of a second "revolution". Is there any type of opposition that could step into governance? Is there a government in exile or anything?
 
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I am not a twitter user. Can you provide some links to some of the feeds?


You dont need to me a twitter member to read twitter. Just search for #Iran, #Iranuprising, #Iranprotest. Here is one of the main ones:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/IranProtests?src=hash


Security forces have lost control and are now resorting to just shooting people.

Also reports that citizens are killing security forces by shooting them and dragging them through the streets.


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Lets say this is the begining of a second "revolution". Is there any type of opposition that could step into governance? Is there a government in exile or anything?
Last I heard (years ago) the Shah's son was living here in the US.

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A protester shot and killed an Iranian policeman on Monday, marking the first death among the security forces amid ongoing anti-government demonstrations, according to the police and media reports.

At least 12 protesters were reported killed on Saturday and Sunday, while President Hassan Rouhani warned in televised remarks that his government would show "no tolerance" for those who incite unrest.

The protests erupted last Thursday in Mashhad, Iran's second largest city, and quickly spread to cities nationwide



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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/...180101202855421.html

Iranian state media has said 14 people have been killed and 400 arrested after five days of demonstrations in different cities across the country.

The reports, which have not been independently verified, also said security forces repelled what they called "armed protesters" who tried to take over police stations and military bases.
 
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Can't say I would be very torn up seeing images of those guys being dragged through the streets.



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We still owe those jihadist assholes a B52 strike from 1979. Not to mention what we owe them for killing our troops in Iraq.


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This could be a potentially huge development if it spreads:




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Small world. I remember when security forces started shooting security forces who were shooting at Islamists back in late 1978.

It was over shortly after that.


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I remember this in the former Soviet-bloc countries when they had their revolutions in 1989. Most of them were non-violent, but I wouldn't mind seeing the ayatollahs wind up like the Ceaușescus of Romania.
 
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I hope to God that we are supporting this uprising with everything we have.


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Vice President Mike Pence tweeted America’s support for anti-government protestors in Iran Monday as the death toll rose to 12 and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani called for calm.

“As long as @RealDonaldTrump is POTUS and I am VP, the United States of America will not repeat the shameful mistake of our past when others stood by and ignored the heroic resistance of the Iranian people as they fought against their brutal regime,” Pence pledged in a series of tweets.

"The bold and growing resistance of the Iranian people today gives hope and faith to all who struggle for freedom and against tyranny. We must not and we will not let them down," he added.

President Trump tweeted early Monday about the protests commenting, “Iran is failing at every level despite the terrible deal made with them by the Obama Administration. The great Iranian people have been repressed for many years. They are hungry for food & for freedom. Along with human rights, the wealth of Iran is being looted. TIME FOR CHANGE!”

President Rouhani responded to Trump’s comments, claiming he had no right to sympathize with the Iranian people because of past remarks.

"This man in America who is sympathizing today with our people has forgotten that he called the Iranian nation terrorists a few months ago,” Rouhani said. “This man who is against the Iranian nation to his core has no right to sympathize with Iranians."

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I guess "Logic 101" wasn't Rouhani's strong point
 
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Cops? Army? It'll need to be someone big and bad enough to take on the Revolutionary Guard.
 
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Leaked meeting notes show how panicked Iranian regime considered stopping deadly protests: 'God help us'

Eric Shawn reports: In Iran, 'death to the dictator!'

Anti-regime street protests grow, demanding democracy and freedom

A leaked report provided to Fox News shows how Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei met with political leaders and heads of the country's security forces to discuss how to tamp down on the deadly nationwide protests.

The report covered several meetings up to December 31 and was provided to the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) from what it said were high level sources from within the regime.

The meeting notes, which have been translated into English from Farsi, said the unrest has hurt every sector of the country's economy and “threatens the regime’s security. The first step, therefore, is to find a way out of this situation.”

The report added, “Religious leaders and the leadership must come to the scene as soon as possible and prevent the situation (from) deteriorating further.” It continued, “God help us, this is a very complex situation and is different from previous occasions.”

As the protests continue to spread, the total number dead rose Monday to at least 13, including a police officer shot and killed with a hunting rifle in the central city of Najafabad.

According to NCRI sources and reports from within Iran, at least 40 cities across Iran witnessed protests Monday, including in the capital city of Tehran. These reports state that slogans heard included “Death to the dictator,” and “the leader lives like God while the people live like beggars.”

The regime's notes claimed protesters “started chanting the ultimate slogans from day one. In Tehran today, people were chanting slogans against Khamenei and the slogans used yesterday were all against Khamenei.”

The notes added that the intelligence division of the feared Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is “monitoring the situation” and “working all in coordination to prevent protests.”

It says that a “red alert” has not yet been declared, which would lead to direct military intervention in the protests. But it then predicted that sending IRGC or the Bassij forces would “backfire” and would further “antagonize the protesters.”

Messages of support for the protesters from President Trump and other administration officials were also mentioned in the report. “The United States officially supported the people on the streets.” The notes continued by saying the U.S. and the West “have all united in support of the Hypocrites,” the regime’s pejorative description of the People's Mujahedin of Iran (MEK) which is one of the groups making up the NCRI.

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The meeting notes that the leader of the NCRI, Maryam Rajavi, and the “Infidels,” which the translation says refers to "the West," “are united for the first time.” It continued, “Maryam Rajavi is hoping for regime change,” saying the protests are “definitely organized,” and “the security forces report that the MEK is very active and is leading and directing them.”

The notes also warn that all those affiliated with leadership “must be on alert and monitor the situation constantly,” continuing, “the security and intelligence forces must constantly monitor the situation on the scene and conduct surveillance and subsequently report to the office of the leadership.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Ben Evansky reports for Fox News on the United Nations and international affairs.

He can be followed @BenEvansky


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Iran’s Theocracy Is on the Brink
Every decade the Islamist regime has been in power, an uprising has cost it an element of its legitimacy.

By Mark Dubowitz and Ray Takeyh Jan. 1, 2018 11:11 a.m. ET

Iran has a peculiar habit of surprising Americans. It has done so again with the protests engulfing its major cities. The demonstrations began over economic grievances and quickly transformed into a rejection of theocracy.

The slogans must have unsettled the mullahs: “Death to Khamenei!” “Death to Rouhani!” “We will die to get our Iran back!” Imperialism has not revived the regime’s legitimacy, as the protesting Persians pointedly reject expending their meager resources on Arab wars: “Death to Hezbollah!” “No to Gaza, not Lebanon! Our life only for Iran!”

However the events on the streets unfold, their most immediate casualty will be the presidency of Hassan Rouhani and its false claim of pragmatic governance. In the aftermath of the Green Revolution of 2009, which rocked the foundations of the Islamic Republic, a sinister argument gradually pervaded Western salons and chancelleries. The convulsions of that summer, the claim went, were over no more than electoral irregularity. With the election of the so-called moderate Mr. Rouhani in 2013, the system rebalanced itself. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and his allies supposedly learned some hard lessons on the need to yield to popular mandates. Iranians want gradual change, we have been told, and believe that the system’s own constitutional provisions and plebiscites can be used to nudge it toward moderation.

Then, last week, Iranians took to the streets.

Every decade of the Islamist regime’s rule has seen one of its political factions lose its legitimacy through national uprisings. In the 1980s, the Islamic Republic waged a determined civil war against liberals and secularists who sought to redeem the revolution’s pledge of a democratic order. The student riots of 1999 ended the reformist interlude and Mohammad Khatami’s presidency, which had promised that the expansion of civil society and elections would harmonize faith and freedom. The reformists lingered as discredited enablers of a repressive regime, but no one believed in their promises of change from within. The hard-liners offered their own national compact, one that privileged economic justice over political emancipation. But the tumultuous presidency of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad produced only corruption and bellicosity.

Then came Mr. Rouhani and his centrist disciples with their pledge to revive the economy, primarily through foreign investment. Mr. Rouhani needed a nuclear agreement to lift debilitating sanctions and stimulate commerce. The Obama administration was happy to deliver, and Iran received tens of billions of dollars in financial dividends, including $1.7 billion in paper currency.

Instead of channeling that wealth into productive uses, Ayatollah Khamenei, the clerical establishment and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps consumed much of it on foreign adventurism and corruption. Mr. Rouhani made a crucial mistake: overpromising and underdelivering on both economic and political reforms. His modest experiment in centrist rule has come crashing down, taking with it his injunction that all must trust the system. The regime is at an impasse. It has no more political actors—no establishment saviors—to offer its restless constituents.

As with the Soviet Union in its last days, the Islamic Republic can no longer appeal to its ideals; it relies only on its security services for survival. That is deadly for a theocracy, by definition an ideological construct. Ideological authoritarian states need a vision of the future by which their enforcers can condone their own violence. The theocracy’s vast patronage system will not cure this crisis of legitimacy. In many ways, Mr. Rouhani was the ruling clergy’s last gasp, a beguiling mullah who could enchant Westerners while offering Iranians some hope. That hope has vanished.

In the coming weeks, many in the commentariat will advise the Trump administration to remain silent and stay on the sidelines, as the Obama administration did in 2009. They will recommend that it is best to let the Iranian drama play itself out. If American officials weigh in, the argument goes, the regime would brand its detractors as agents of a foreign power.

Such stale prescriptions miss the point that Iranians are looking toward America to support their struggle. Democratic dissidents always do so. In that regard, Iranians are no different from non-Muslim dissidents from the former Soviet Union to communist China, who have struggled against tyranny and ardently welcomed American and European support.

Barack Obama has been rightly castigated for his silence during the Green Revolution. President Trump is right not to follow his predecessor’s discredited path. The White House should continue issuing condemnations daily, including through Persian-language media outlets, and follow up with sanctions targeting corruption and human-rights abuses. Congress should rediscover its once-bipartisan determination to hold the regime accountable for its crimes and push America’s European allies to overcome their mercantile greed and support Iranians striving to be free from theocracy.

The Islamic Republic is a relic of a century that yielded multiple ideological regimes claiming to have mastered the forces of history. By now most of them are history. Mr. Trump entered office with an understanding of the Islamic Republic’s profound threat to American security. The most consequential legacy of his presidency may be a Middle East free of its most powerful unsavory regime.

Mr. Dubowitz is chief executive of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Mr. Takeyh is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.


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I lived in Tehran, Iran for about 2 years in 1969 through 1971, and traveled to several parts of the country. I was a Captain in USAF working as an Advisor to the Imperial Iranian Air Force (IIAF), and I lived in an apartment in Tehran. The Iranians I observed and had contact with appeared happy and reasonably prosperous, and there were government programs in place to insure that even the poor had adequate food and water. The Shah was not without his faults (he was a despot, surely) but he did appear to have his people's well-being in mind. We Americans were well treated, and we had our own English-speaking recreational/religious facilities--even a drive-in movie (that could speak in English or Farsi). The Iranians mostly wore sedate Western clothing (some women did wear Chadors) and English was an official second language in the schools. Iran was on its way entering the 20th Century and I had great expectations for the country's future. I left there in 1971 (reassigned to South Carolina) and had tentative plans to return to Iran after about 10 years to see how far they had come along in their modernization efforts. Of course, the Islamic Revolution in 1979 ended any idea of making that journey.

It saddened me to observe the destruction of all the improvements in Iranian society that had taken place.

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