After today's hearings I have changed my mind about the "fairness" of it. Now I think that Schiff's completely controlling everything and subjecting Repubs to prior approval to call witnesses or issue subpoenas is totally fair.

Because even with all that, leading off with their best 2 hand-picked swampies...they still got spanked. A Soviet style kangaroo court is what it takes to even come close to a level playing field for those idiots.

Out of left (or right ) field comes a Congresswoman out of NY nobody has heard of, she wiped the floor with 'ol Kent-y-boy and then yielded 30s back!

CTH has a good post up

During the impeachment hearing today State Department officials George Kent and Bill Taylor both stated they never heard of any claims of Ukrainian political interference in the 2016 U.S. election. Additionally, both claimed to have no knowledge of any U.S. investigation that might overlap with Ukraine.

When pressed with specifically cited reports about DNC operatives engaging with Ukraine government officials to gather opposition research against candidate Donald Trump, both Mr. Kent and Ambassador Taylor denied any knowledge of the outlined reporting.

CTH then cites a 20 July 2017 ltr from Sen Grassley to Rod Rosenstein




full ltr at link

https://theconservativetreehou...in-2017/#more-176070

Grassley is quoting open source info. But our Ukranian experts seem totally unaware

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comment from blogger Undercover Huber:

"The only way this impeachment hearing could have gone worse would have been to have Bob Mueller testify again"

Savage.

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Jim Jordan: You didn’t listen in on President Trump & Zelensky’s call?

Taylor: I did not.

Jordan: You’ve never talked with Chief of Staff Mulvaney?

Taylor: I never did.

Jordan: You’ve never met the President?

Taylor: That’s correct.

Jordan: And you’re their star witness.

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Originally posted by sdy:
William Taylor:

"Let me just say that I don’t consider myself a star witness for anything"

"I think I was clear about — I’m not here to take one side or the other or to advocate any particular outcomes. Let me just restate that. Second thing is that my understanding is only coming from people that I talk to."

Whatever these two tools "service" entailed before this biased shit show, if they have a shred of honor and character, or self awareness, they will understand what fools they've been made.

Jim Jordan summarized: You didn't hear or know shit first hand, and this entire sham hinges on your testimony. Taylor knew he'd been had when Jordan called him on it, and I suspect he knew he'd been painted into a corner on lying at times.

Taylor is an embarrassment to West Point. If number one in his class is this fucking dumb, and thinks himself clever enough to pull off that sham, he's not only stupid but deluded. Just an arrogant, elite ruling class, establishment hack comrade towing the party line. Wonder what was in it for him. He probably thought he'd be the hero of dims/progs after he assists taking down DT.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Is it just me or does Shifty Schiff have an almost demonic look on his face 90% of the time?

Every time I see Adam Schiffhead I am reminded of the kid in school that everyone wanted to punch in the face. I know I do.

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Jim Jordan summarized: You didn't hear or know shit first hand, and this entire sham hinges on your testimony. Taylor knew he'd been had when Jordan called him on it, and I suspect he knew he'd been painted into a corner on lying at times.

Taylor is an embarrassment to West Point. If number one in his class is this fucking dumb, and thinks himself clever enough to pull off that sham, he's not only stupid but deluded. Just an arrogant, elite ruling class, establishment hack comrade towing the party line. Wonder what was in it for him. He probably thought he'd be the hero of dims/progs after he assists taking down DT.

Those of us following this closely know that. Of course, that's not the way it's portrayed in the MSM. It all depends on your sources of information.
If impeachment is successful, regardless of removal by the Senate, I suspect Taylor will be richly rewarded with a book deal and plenty of paid speaking and media appearances.

Kurt Schlichter is always a fun read. From Felonia Von Pantsuit to now Stumbles McMyturn.

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That’s the thing here – you have a sham process where prosecutors with a clear bias and a prejudgment of the facts are not trying to make a factual determination but to orchestrate a show trial designed to validate the decision they reached before this whole Ukrainian thing even started – before the fake Russia thing began. Heck, before Stumbles McMyturn even lost.

Link

I'm hopefully taking it as a sign that the latest Ukraine hoax is failing that they aren't talking about it so far on any of the morning news shows. Royals, Celine, Beyoncé, CMAs, real houswives of slutsville, anything but impeachment.

A conservative talk radio guy I listen on my morning drive to played this clip to illustrate basically what all these so-called "star witnesses" are saying about Trump:

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Bueller?
Simone: Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Star witness my white ass!

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Originally posted by PASig:
A conservative talk radio guy I listen on my morning drive to played this clip to illustrate basically what all these so-called "star witnesses" are saying about Trump:

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Bueller?
Simone: Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Star witness my white ass!

^^^ Haha, yeah, I caught that during my layover this morning in Atlanta (I listen to Zeoli every day on the Radio.com app even when I'm not in Philly). That was great cause that was Kristy Swanson in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and she happens to be pretty conservative actually and had retweeted that clip of herself in regards to these absurd hearings. Pretty funny and about spot on.

I am instructing a class this week, so I am not able to listen to the radio or watch TV during this fiasco. I'm counting on you people to keep me updated!

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When did "I heard from people" become credible evidence in a hearing?

If you weren't paying attention, apparently on 14 November 2019.

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I'm hopefully taking it as a sign that the latest Ukraine hoax is failing that they aren't talking about it so far on any of the morning news shows. Royals, Celine, Beyoncé, CMAs, real houswives of slutsville, anything but impeachment.

This is what Rush is saying this morning also. So bad even the Lefty news media are going with squirrel!

https://www.breitbart.com/clip...ause-of-impeachment/

Trump 2020 director of strategic communications Marc Lotter explained how Trump supporters were getting involved because of the impeachment efforts conducted by House Democrats.

“As we’ve seen from the campaign, it is absolutely, and it is unfortunate,” Lotter said on “The Jeff Poor Show.” “But it’s definitely having an impact.

We’ve had 100,000 more volunteers. Donors are coming out of the woodwork. We’re raising record amounts of money. It is galvanizing people and even people in the middle who are seeing the Democrats are just consumed with impeachment. They’ve been wanting to do this.

The Washington Post actually posted a story 19 minutes after the president took the oath of office. He was giving his inaugural address, and the post was already talking about impeachment.”

This....and mores to the point....I think that Shifferbrains is trying to repay all the wrongs visited upon him as a child upon Trump, as maybe Trump reminds him of his former tormentors. That could explain why he always appears so gleefully crazed...

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Originally posted by fpuhan:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Is it just me or does Shifty Schiff have an almost demonic look on his face 90% of the time?

Every time I see Adam Schiffhead I am reminded of the kid in school that everyone wanted to punch in the face. I know I do.

Paul Sperry

Reviews are in, and even Dems agree, Schiff's impeachment opener was a flop:

Dem strategist Chris Kofinis: "We need to stop presenting this like a foreign policy class—this needs to be about making a clear case about what the president did wrong. That narrative is getting lost."

Finally getting pushback from her press poodles,who r frustrated Schiff didn't move the needle yesterday, Pelosi looked frantic today trying to defend their impeachment decision:

"It's not about politics!"

"[What Trump did] makes what Nixon did look almost small, almost small!"

Watch Pelosi's presser today, paying attention to her frantic hand-gesturing. She's more animated & manic than normal, frustrated nothing Dems are throwing up as impeachable offense is sticking. She even reverted back to "the Mueller Report," grasping at that old nothing-burger!

Schiff and Dems are discovering that outside their little closed-door basement echo-chamber, their charges against Trump are not resonating. They are slowly realizing that they've been overselling impeachment, that few outside their corrupt coterie are buying it

Dems now charge Trump's impeachable offense was using an "irregular channel" to carry out his foreign policy, bypassing the entrenched diplomatic corps. But Dems are using the Impeachment Clause to criminalize foreign policy decisions by POTUS. That’s the real abuse of power here

I wonder if the Dems realize that Taylor actually exonerated the President in his testimony yesterday? I wonder if Taylor even realizes it?

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
I am instructing a class this week, so I am not able to listen to the radio or watch TV during this fiasco. I'm counting on you people to keep me updated!

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Just picture a whole bunch of people sitting around talking like Charlie Brown's teacher, but not making any sense.

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
I wonder if the Dems realize that Taylor actually exonerated the President in his testimony yesterday? I wonder if Taylor even realizes it?

The bigger question is do the Democrats care, or will they just proceed blindly forward?

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
I wonder if the Dems realize that Taylor actually exonerated the President in his testimony yesterday? I wonder if Taylor even realizes it?

The bigger question is do the Democrats care, or will they just proceed blindly forward?

They've been moving blindly "forward" ever since Trump was elected. No change.

Even Crazy Cakes Pelosi, who once had a modicum of political sense, appears to have lost it.