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Most people have long thought Google shows a left-wing bias in its behavior, even in how it provides search results. Now there is proof based on Google’s changing the definition of “fascism.”


Full article: Google REDEFINES Fascism to Protect Leftists; Smear Conservatives

So, is Google trying to re-define "fascism?" You be the judge:

Google's definition:
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an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.


Mirriam-Webster
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a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition


Dictionary.com
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a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.


Wikipedia
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a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce,[3] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.


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Political ideology that imposes strict social and economical measures as a method of empowering the government and stripping citizens of rights. This authoritative system of government is usually headed by an absolute dictator who keeps citizens suppressed via acts of violence and strict laws that govern the people. The most noted form of Fascism was implemented under Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, who both stripped citizens of their rights and maintained strict regimes that resulted in the deaths of thousands of humans. Some of the defining characteristics of fascism are: (1) racism, (2) militarism, (3) dictatorship, and (4) destructive nationalistic policies


The only definition that comes close to Google's is Wikipedia's, and even that one notes "usually placed."

In the interest of full disclosure: I'm annoyed with Google, anyway. So it doesn't take much for me to find fault with them. Conversely: I'm not a conservative, either, so my only axe to grind is truth/accuracy/etc.



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So left-wing is total government, and right-wing is total government.


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So left-wing is total government, and right-wing is total government.
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Right.
The Wikipedia definition says "fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum."

But the left–right spectrum is completely meaningless. Both the far left (communism-marxism) and the far right (fascism) end up looking pretty much the same.

A better spectrum would be no government on one end and total government on the other end.

Republic vs. Democracy - What Is The Real Form of the U.S. Government




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Bing has the exact same definition and states that it's powered by "Oxford Dictionaries."

From what I'm finding, Google uses Oxford too.
 
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Military Illustrated magazine issue 194 had a excellent article on the reasons Adolph Hitler and the Nazi party were a left-wing movement. It also discusses where and why the left spread the lie that they were right-wingers.
 
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When you're a communist, everybody opposing you is a right-wing fascist. Even if they have communist views, or are more communist than you, especially if they're more communist than you, they must be called right-wing fascists, because more communism is good, and if someone is more communist than you, then you're the right-wing fascist.



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Military Illustrated magazine issue 194 had a excellent article on the reasons Adolph Hitler and the Nazi party were a left-wing movement. It also discusses where and why the left spread the lie that they were right-wingers.

Yep. Their economics was socialistic - they nationalized industries, centrally allocated resources, subsidized farmers, etc.

Not that Wikipedia is the be-all and end-all of historical research (I like Adam Tooze's The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy as a reference, for those with time and and interest) but here are some relevant bits from Wikipedia - The Economy of Nazi Germany
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The original "Twenty-Five Point Programme" of the party, adopted in 1920, listed several economic demands (including "the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations,"

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During the 12 years of the Third Reich, government ownership expanded greatly into formerly private sectors of strategic industries: aviation, synthetic oil and rubber, aluminum, chemicals, iron and steel, and army equipment. The capital assets of state-owned industry doubled during this same period, whereby the nationalization caused state-ownership of companies to increase to over 500 businesses.

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where the Nazi administration wanted additional industrial capacity, they would first nationalize and then establish a new state-owned-and-operated company. In 1937 Hermann Göring targeted companies producing iron ore, taking control of all privately owned steelworks


TL: DR -> Nazis called themselves 'National Socalists' and they were.
 
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Nazis called themselves 'National Socalists' and they were.

Socialists and allies of the father of fascism, Benito Mussolini, who was a lifelong radical Socialist.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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So left-wing is total government, and right-wing is total government.
Roll Eyes


Right.
The Wikipedia definition says "fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum."

But the left–right spectrum is completely meaningless. Both the far left (communism-marxism) and the far right (fascism) end up looking pretty much the same.

A better spectrum would be no government on one end and total government on the other end.

{snip of vid} Republic vs. Democracy - What Is The Real Form of the U.S. Government



Excellent video and the true definition.
I define Liberal vs Conservative by the amount of Government (control).
I think most may define it by an issue ~ incorrectly.
I never understood how most common everyday folks can support the notion of paying more in taxes and having less control of their life. Confused
 
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Socialism - (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism

Facism - an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship

Dictatorship - a country governed by a dictator

Nazism - the political principles of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Irony - the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.


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I define Liberal vs Conservative by the amount of Government (control).
I think most may define it by an issue ~ incorrectly.

Right. And in the current lexicon, you would be considered a Conservative because you believe in liberty, which is the defining characteristic of a Classical Liberal. Frown
Leftists (Government control freaks) always try to change the meaning of the terms when people begin to figure out that they don't want you to have liberty. See: progressive. Roll Eyes



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Lauren gives the real and genuine definition in this video:



But, her video doesn't serve to support Leftists, so google doesn't mention it.



I found what you said riveting.
 
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The original fascist, Mussolini, was far left. He was a socialist, as was Hitler; likewise with Saddam Hussein. Stalin and Mao were communists, as was Castro.

Fascism is far left. Far right is probably more libertarian than anything. At minimum it is about the least government possible without anarchy.

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But the left–right spectrum is completely meaningless. Both the far left (communism-marxism) and the far right (fascism) end up looking pretty much the same.

A better spectrum would be no government on one end and total government on the other end.

Republic vs. Democracy - What Is The Real Form of the U.S. Government

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Left = Communism = Dictatorship...

After all, it's not called "the dictatorship of the proletariat" for no reason.


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Lauren gives the real and genuine definition in this video:



But, her video doesn't serve to support Leftists, so google doesn't mention it.


Very good, thanks for posting.

I have two deeply thoughtful and profound observations to make:

1) She never mentioned Generalissimo Francisco Franco's place on the political spectrum line.

2) I still will call everyone I disagree with a "Commie", rather than the currently fashionable "Fascist." It's generational of me.

3) OK, three. I resent the current GDC's appropriation of Russia as the boogie man in attacking our President. Goddam commies.


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The original fascist, Mussolini, was far left. He was a socialist, as was Hitler; likewise with Saddam Hussein. Stalin and Mao were communists, as was Castro.

Fascism is far left. Far right is probably more libertarian than anything. At minimum it is about the least government possible without anarchy....


Communism is where politicians and bureaucrats subjugate the people and serve themselves. Fascism is where politicians and bureaucrats subjugate the people and serve themselves, plus serve a few of their superficially capitalist cronies. A distinction without a difference.




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So left-wing is total government, and right-wing is total government.
Roll Eyes


Right.
The Wikipedia definition says "fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum."

But the left–right spectrum is completely meaningless. Both the far left (communism-marxism) and the far right (fascism) end up looking pretty much the same.

A better spectrum would be no government on one end and total government on the other end.

I believe a better spectrum is circular, rather than linear. Ultimately, carried to their ultimate design, both end with government domination and population subservient to, or suppressed by government. I don't know where you put anarchy, but the end goal of Marxism/Communism is certainly anything but "no government."


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As I understood things, the main reason fascism is mistakenly identified with right-wing ideology is the rejection of government-forced equality.
 
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As I understood things, the main reason fascism is mistakenly identified with right-wing ideology is the rejection of government-forced equality.

It is isn't mistaken. It is a concerted effort in academia to deflect from what socialism/communism really is- authoritarian oligarchic rule where a few are above the problems and suffering of the masses- i.e. NK, China, USSR, Cuba, Nazi Germany, Venezuela, etc etc.
 
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It isn't circular, I think "circular" is the reasoning applied by the left to twist conservatism into fascism. It is definitely linear, conservatism at one end and modern leftism at the other.

What is currently labeled conservatism is really classic liberalism: a desire for self-determination, maximum freedom and limited government. By its very definition, conservatism cannot be fascist. It would be like saying "wetland desert".


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Originally posted by Veeper:
So left-wing is total government, and right-wing is total government.
Roll Eyes


Right.
The Wikipedia definition says "fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum."

But the left–right spectrum is completely meaningless. Both the far left (communism-marxism) and the far right (fascism) end up looking pretty much the same.

A better spectrum would be no government on one end and total government on the other end.

I believe a better spectrum is circular, rather than linear. Ultimately, carried to their ultimate design, both end with government domination and population subservient to, or suppressed by government. I don't know where you put anarchy, but the end goal of Marxism/Communism is certainly anything but "no government."
 
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