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Wait, I thought they wanted LESS po-leece in the hood, didn't they?

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/31...ower-police-presence

For the third year in a row, Baltimore, Md., has had more than 300 murders, reaching a new record of murders per number of residents in 2017.

Some residents attribute the high murder rate to relaxed police patrols in the city following high-profile cases of police brutality. Officers have backed off in neighborhoods, like the one where Freddie Gray was arrested.

The Rev. Kinji Scott, a pastor in Baltimore who's held positions in local city government, says the opposite needs to happen.

"We wanted the police there," Scott says. "We wanted them engaged in the community. We didn't want them beating the hell out of us, we didn't want that."

He's among activists who are calling for police reform to reduce the violence in Baltimore and several other high-crime cities across the U.S. that he says haven't seen change. That change begins with a conversation between the communities directly involved, Scott says.

"We need the front line police officers and we need the heart of the black community to step to the forefront of this discussion," he says. "And that's when we're going to see a decrease in crime."



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Heal thine own Rev. You and yours crapped on the cops and they got tried of being the money tree/whipping post. Fix your own damn problems!


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Back off as requested.
They kill each other at a faster rate.
Less crime in the future when they are gone.
Problem solved.


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"We wanted the police there," Scott says. "We wanted them engaged in the community. We didn't want them beating the hell out of us, we didn't want that."

So you bring the police back, and an officer is inevitably forced to beat or shoot somebody to stop a crime. What will you say then?
 
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Fuck that. Embrace your liberal utopia. You worked so hard for it Baltimore.

Why ruin it w/ law and order?
 
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You can't have freedom without law and order. That might sound contradictory to some, so let me explain. When people are afraid to go about their business for fear of being mugged or murdered, when a mother puts her kid to bed in the bathtub because it offers protection from gunfire - do you think that is freedom?
 
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"We wanted the police there," Scott says. "We wanted them engaged in the community. We didn't want them beating the hell out of us, we didn't want that."



Wasn't the last time I heard of police officers attempting outreach in the community by befriending students in schools. And weren't the cops kicked out due to the complaints illegal immigrant kids/parents.

Seems they want to be able to complain about the problem, rather than attempt to fix the problem.
 
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just let the beat cop do their job they know who has a gun or is a drug dealer stop and frisk cleaned up ny city


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The Rev. Kinji Scott, a pastor in Baltimore who's held positions in local city government, says the opposite needs to happen.

"We wanted the police there," Scott says. "We wanted them engaged in the community. We didn't want them beating the hell out of us, we didn't want that."


Mr. Scott, we know you - we know your behavior. You say this, but then when an officer is FORCED to protect himself from one of the ruthless killers your people create, you blame the officer. Screw you - you've taught us not to listen to your bull shit anymore.



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Baltimore city officials and civic leaders sowed the wind and are reaping the whirlwind.



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You got what you wanted, police yourselves.
It's everyone else's fault but the "communities".

Stew in your wished for cesspool, Rev.
 
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So... they want the po-leece to be there, but not actually do any, y'know, policing, is that it?

Right.



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Hey Rev-er-rund, I mean this from the bottom of my Police heart:

GO FUCK YOURSELF!

You and yours bitch when the Police are there, doing their job.

Then you attempt to crucify and vilify the Police.

Now that the Police are only "doing their job" (as in RE-Active Policing - ie. Taking a report and leaving) you have the audacity to complain? No one in your "community" want's to come forward for interviews, no one in your "community" want's to step up, your "community" still wants to commit the crimes.... Too bad, so sad.

Your Mayor got what she wanted, your Dist Attny too! They got their "Safe space to destroy".


THIS is exactly what you wanted! This is YOUR "community", YOUR flock... YOU get to deal with it!
YOU want the Police to help? Why don't you stand on your fucking soapbox and preach to your "community". tell YOUR community to STOP committing all the crime... Naaa, that would be too much like right, huh?

Well, Rev-er-rund, while you're fucking yourself, I want you to look in that "Good Book" of yours and seek out the part where it says: "You reap what you sow" and underline it.


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"We wanted the police there," Scott says. "We wanted them engaged in the community. We didn't want them beating the hell out of us, we didn't want that."



Wasn't the last time I heard of police officers attempting outreach in the community by befriending students in schools. And weren't the cops kicked out due to the complaints illegal immigrant kids/parents.

Seems they want to be able to complain about the problem, rather than attempt to fix the problem.

Sooo then, you're sayin' they're Democrats, right? Wink


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You can't have freedom without law and order. That might sound contradictory to some, so let me explain. When people are afraid to go about their business for fear of being mugged or murdered, when a mother puts her kid to bed in the bathtub because it offers protection from gunfire - do you think that is freedom?


true enough - but its Baltimore

they CHOOSE to live this way and its not our decision - they are living with the decisions they voted for and they're entitled to reap the benefits - good and bad



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Yeah, OK.

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"We wanted the police there," Scott says. "We wanted them engaged in the community. We didn't want them beating the hell out of us, we didn't want that."



Sorry, given the failure of the clergy to infuse morality into the culture, what you want is a conflicting directive. Police cannot be engaged in an immoral culture without inflict consequences. Now that the PC crowd is in power and has shown a will to persecute law enforcement, you are on your own. Better arm up.



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