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Two questions:

1) there seems to be two types of keys. One is the traditional remote module. The other is like a thick credit card that I can put in my wallet. It doesn't seem to have buttons so it relies on proximity and touch to lock/unlock but that's probably okay. I generally don't use buttons anymore since all the locks on my GS are broken. Any downsides to the wallet key?

2) I generally don't believe in buying warranties. I bought Toyota specifically for reliability. That being said, I'm worried about the differentials and the active suspension. Any thought on a warranty for this car? Not needed? Cost?




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I never do warranty's on used vehicles myself?

I assume the vibration is somewhat normal for that vehicle. I would check the air pressure in the tires too. I would think 50 lbs on those coopers on a heavy rig like that would be about right? It is going to be a stiffer ride for sure.

My mechanic buddy steered me away from the LC. Not because it is not a good rig. Just expensive to work on.

You seem a bit luke warm on a new rig. Not sure what you are thinking. If you are going to keep it, fine. If not decide and move on and try to come out without loosing money. Now is the time. The longer you keep it the more $ it will suck out of you.

I am not trying to convince you either way or say you did not get a good rig. It is just the vib you keep giving as you discuss it.

I would not worry about the type of accessories you are talking about. That is just wasted $ imho. Maybe the floor mats I would do. If you are going to keep maybe get the made in the USA custom made jobbies. Cannot remember their name off the top of my head.

Btw, you never have told us exactly what you bought. Model, year, miles, color, etc. Seem's strange. What gives?

I mean, C'mon man. We are all car guys! Wink



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Now that the money is spent, I'm warming up to the car more. I had a lot of apprehension spending this much for a used car. But as long as the car is good working condition and remains so (outside of regular maintenance), I think it'll be a pretty good car. Very comfortable with lots of features. Anxious to test out its off-pavement capabilities. Smile

But I do have some reservations still that are based on spending this much money and still not sure if it's actually in good condition. If/when I get some confidence it's all in good working order, I'll probably be much happier.

The steering wheel vibration is subtle. It's similar to the vibration one feels on the gear shifter lever. It's not like it's shaking because the wheels are not balanced. Seems like it's probably not something that would be completely surprising for a 4wd. Just not sure since this is my first.

I got an '08 LX570 - I think it has all the possible factory options except for maybe the radar cruise control. It's got cameras in every direction, the Mark Levinson stereo / DVD system which sounds pretty amazing. Only thing missing are floor mats Smile

It has active suspension with auto leveling (I think?) and controllable height and you can set it for comfort or sport (but not sure I can feel a difference). CRAWL control, switch to turn on/off VSC/A-trac.




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You should probably start here:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threa...0-series-faq.908224/

Floor mats: (Weathertech/Husky/Lloyds Rubbertite/Intro-Tech HEXOMAT)
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/rubber-mats.577768/

Console vault: Good luck with that, with the limited number of units sold in the US, and the fact that many in the US have the "cool box" in the console. This guy might be your best bet: http://absolute-wits-end.com/lockboxes-1/ I know he makes a box for the 80-series and has talked about a 100-series box.

Cargo cover was offered in other markets (if you're willing to remove the 3rd row) and is Toyota PN 08201-60900
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/cargo-cover.553656/
You might search one of those online auction sites for "Toyota 08201-60900"

The Toyota/Lexus/Generic first aid kits are readily available on Amazon.

Air Compressor: The "Smittybilt 2781 5.65 CFM Universal Air Compressor" has worked just fine for me. VIAIR and ARB are other alternatives.

Thoughts on extended warranties on this platform:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threa...ded-warranty.903978/

You probably should add Techstream to the list, if you don't already have it. A source is listed here:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threa...w-questions.1002547/
 
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Wow. Thanks for all the leads! I'll check them out. Yea, I contacted CV - no go. I may do what I did w/ my GS and just get a vline bolted to the body somewhere.




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One of the things that was suggest by several members here was to have it checked out by a trusted mechanic before you bought it. Maybe you should have it checked out now and find out what you really bought, hopefully a good one.
 
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That was an $80,000 car when new, steering vibration in not normal. I would guess there is some wear and tear in the driveline causing this issue.


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One of the things that was suggest by several members here was to have it checked out by a trusted mechanic before you bought it. Maybe you should have it checked out now and find out what you really bought, hopefully a good one.


Yes. I'm bringing it in. I couldn't bring it in prior to purchase so I checked it out as well as I could. But am scheduling to bring it in for him to check out.




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That was an $80,000 car when new, steering vibration in not normal. I would guess there is some wear and tear in the driveline causing this issue.


Okay. I'll raise this specifically for the shop to check out when I bring it in. Again, it's subtle; I didn't notice it on the initial drive. I'm probably hyper sensitive right now Smile But I do notice it now. Will definitely have it assessed by the shop.




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One of the things that was suggest by several members here was to have it checked out by a trusted mechanic before you bought it. Maybe you should have it checked out now and find out what you really bought, hopefully a good one.


Yes. I'm bringing it in. I couldn't bring it in prior to purchase so I checked it out as well as I could. But am scheduling to bring it in for him to check out.

Do you have a Toyota specialist you're already using?

If you need one, I know a really good shop close to where you had your vault installed




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Do you have a Toyota specialist you're already using?

Thanks. Yes, I have one already. But will keep it in mind if I need another.




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Finally, an obligatory pic. With a bike rack (instead of getting the adapter, I just found one (although the older version) of the same rack w/ a 2" stinger.





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Very nice K. But it does not look like a rig to run off road. And not one that looks like a conversion candidate Wink

Which is not an issue for me as I never really thought you had real intentions of offroading with it.

Gravel roads and off the blacktop back roads you will travel in safety and comfort. Congrats on the very nice rig.



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Thanks! It is pretty comfy. Smile. I figure 90% of miles will be street with the remainder on rutty trails, sandy and muddy river/lake sides, and snow. Full time 4wd will be easy on my wife and for me. So, yea, off pavement but not really off road in how you guys use the term.

Powertrain seems very strong. If it's in good shape, then should be a solid performer. It rolls a little more than I'm used to but that's probably the nature of the beast vs my GS

One thing: I've been looking out for other LX's to see how others modify, if anything, from stock. I thought these were popular. But I haven't seen a single one over the past 4 days.




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Okay, got an inspection done by the shop... Ugh.

Actually, the car is in pretty good condition. Needs some maintenance as expected. No real surprises there.

The surprise was two-fold:

1) Water pump / belts. Need to be replaced very soon. Pump is leaking, belts are worn. It's going to cost a pretty penny. Question: is this something that reasonably should have been known by the dealer and disclosed? If so, I will go back and have them share the repair cost. Or is this factored into the KBB price estimate?

2) Rear shocks are leaking. Need to be replaced soon. Again, not sure if this is something reasonably should have been known/disclosed. I'm a little more lax on this since the hydraulic suspension is generally not typical. I need to research -- replace with factory or is there a recommended aftermarket part to use?


Otherwise, good to go until the next major service.




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Question: is this something that reasonably should have been known by the dealer and disclosed? If so, I will go back and have them share the repair cost. Or is this factored into the KBB price estimate?


It really depends on your state - in Florida, unless its a certified pre-owned car from a dealership advertised as such, it's a no warranty deal on used cars. Dealers usually do a very brief inspection, ie that the car operates, drives, stops, etc. But beyond that, if it falls apart after you drive off the lot, tough luck.

Other states have a 72 hr return period, where you can get it inspected and change your mind get a refund in that time.

So it really depends.
 
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I see. So, even if they knew about it, there is no obligation to disclose?

No wonder used car sales is considered such a shady business. They want top dollar as if the car was in perfect condition but actually has items in need of repair.

All told, this is probably not a big deal. The powertrain (the expensive stuff) seems like it's all in generally good shape. I feel like I've been slimed a bit but I guess I should consider myself relatively unscathed. $1000 for the pump and belts.....




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Okay, got an inspection done by the shop... Ugh.

Actually, the car is in pretty good condition. Needs some maintenance as expected. No real surprises there.

The surprise was two-fold:

1) Water pump / belts. Need to be replaced very soon. Pump is leaking, belts are worn. It's going to cost a pretty penny. Question: is this something that reasonably should have been known by the dealer and disclosed? If so, I will go back and have them share the repair cost. Or is this factored into the KBB price estimate?

2) Rear shocks are leaking. Need to be replaced soon. Again, not sure if this is something reasonably should have been known/disclosed. I'm a little more lax on this since the hydraulic suspension is generally not typical. I need to research -- replace with factory or is there a recommended aftermarket part to use?


Otherwise, good to go until the next major service.


Water pump/ belts is going to be your timing belt. Get it done now if it is leaking. Don't want it to seize as your timing belt will go too and if that goes so does the motor.


There are no aftermarket replacements for the AHC suspension on the 200 series. Which is the biggest reason I suggested a 100 series in your original thread when searching. AHC stuff is not cheap.


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Timing chain not belt in this car. Smile

The shocks are not too bad -- the AHC system is in overall good condition. Shocks seems to be about $200 (parts and labor).




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