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If you have eclipse glasses -- beware!

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August 12, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jim Shugart
If you have eclipse glasses -- beware!
I'm starting a new thread on this instead of posting in the existing solar eclipse thread because IMHO it is potentially important enough to warrant it.

If you have obtained protective glasses for the solar eclipse, you should make sure that they meet ISO standards, etc., and are safe.

I received the below email from amazon this morning. Eek Frown





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August 12, 2017, 10:01 AM
chellim1
Eye Safety During a Total Solar Eclipse

Visit NASA's Eclipse Across America site for more information on the Aug. 21, 2017, total solar eclipse.

It is never safe to look directly at the sun's rays – even if the sun is partly obscured. When watching a partial eclipse you must wear eclipse glasses at all times if you want to face the sun, or use an alternate indirect method. This also applies during a total eclipse up until the time when the sun is completely and totally blocked.

During the short time when the moon completely obscures the sun – known as the period of totality – it is safe to look directly at the star, but it's crucial that you know when to take off and put back on your glasses.

First and foremost: Check for local information on timing of when the total eclipse will begin and end. NASA's page of eclipse times is a good place to start.

Second: The sun also provides important clues for when totality is about to start and end.


https://www.nasa.gov/content/e...-total-solar-eclipse



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August 12, 2017, 10:35 AM
urbanwarrior238
FWIW, we got our glasses from Lowes and they appear to be quality glasses. They have the approval markings. They are SUPER dark lenses and when we looked at the sun you could just see a perfect round ball up there and no issues when we took them off and looked away.


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August 12, 2017, 10:45 AM
architect
I got the same notification from Amazon for a different, but similar product I ordered on 8/2.

Labeled "made in USA" on the display ad, but they shipped from China. Curious.

Even better, the shipping notification indicated earliest date of arrival as 8/23, two days after the eclipse.

So if this is a nefarious Chinese plot to trick the good citizens of the US into blinding themselves, they aren't getting it exactly right.

I did see that eye drops, "made in the USA" are on sale now. Smile
August 12, 2017, 11:00 AM
SigSentry
No. 14 welders glass-yes. Exposed medical x-ray film-no. That and color film. I wondered why all these glasses are being given away for free. Are the lenses made of Mylar?

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEhelp/safety.html
August 12, 2017, 11:01 AM
jehzsa
Recently, the restriction for prescription eyewear on my driver's license was removed. I'd hate for it to show a new restriction, namely, legally blind.

So, I really hope and wish that after the eclipse some TV channel will show film of it. Keeping my fingers crossed. But the goat is ready for the ritualistic sacrifice. Somehow, I think that Shelly the Goat wishes there were no stinkin' eclipse.

Meanwhile, those of you who plan to watch it live, make certain that you wear the correct glasses. After corroborating, if in doubt, you are probably right.


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August 12, 2017, 11:01 AM
bob ramberg
How would welding lenses work for viewing the eclipse? I would think they would be of higher quality. I think I have shades 10 and 11. I just saw SigSentry's post. Looks like I need to go darker or can I double up?


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August 12, 2017, 11:14 AM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by bob ramberg:
How would welding lenses work for viewing the eclipse? I would think they would be of higher quality. I think I have shades 10 and 11. I just saw SigSentry's post. Looks like I need to go darker or can I double up?


No doubling. 13 or 14 only depending on which source you trust.

We have binoculars, glasses, camera filters, all set for it! Can't wait.



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August 12, 2017, 11:15 AM
sjtill
What I read is you can't double up, have to use #14.


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August 12, 2017, 01:27 PM
Crom
I ordered mine when they were 10 for $10.
They are in shipping, but not arrived yet.

Now Amazon sends out this warning, and the "good ones" are 5 for $50 ?!?!

...and unless you choose special shipping, they are not going to arrive by eclipse time!

The perfect scam!


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August 12, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jim Shugart
Eclipse glasses arriving after 8/21 would rival the SMALT! Big Grin

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August 12, 2017, 02:29 PM
dsiets
I just came here to post the same thing as I got the same message.
My order was for 4 of the hard frame glasses. The packaging says "HomeStarry, ISO, CE, infrared, ultravioelt, yada, yada," etc. but unlike in the picture at ordering, there is no labeling on the frames. Roll Eyes

I looked at the sun w/ them earlier and I've no ill effects but now, who knows? Better not chance it.
August 12, 2017, 02:41 PM
jcsabolt2
Not to highjack the thread, but what filter do I need for our DSLR Nikon 5300, 52mm is filter size I think? I looked on Amazon, but am rather confused by the filter type and costs seem to vary wildly for those marketed for the solar event.


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August 12, 2017, 03:58 PM
cparktd
Well crap! What to do?

Just got the notice and a refund.
I thought I was on the ball for once. LOL! I ordered 24 for family early on and have already dispersed some.

They are VERY dark, even darker than my #10 welding helmet lens. Tried them looking at the sun. They do have the ISO logo and cert numbers ... but that means nothing I guess.

But just because they can't verify they are on NASA's or some other official approved list doesn't mean they are not safe. Amazon has to cover their ass I guess.



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August 12, 2017, 04:12 PM
Balzé Halzé
Seems I'm in the clear. I ordered the Soluna glasses off Amazon, and they appear to be legit. I haven't gotten an email from Amazon in any case.

Soluna Solar Eclipse Glasses - CE and ISO Certified Safe Shades for Direct Sun Viewing, (10 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N...cp_taa_e22JzbR5GK46R


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August 12, 2017, 05:09 PM
Rey HRH
My ancestors looked at solar eclipses straight in the eye and they lived.

They didn't need any stinking glasses, just a virgin sacrifice.



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August 12, 2017, 05:13 PM
2Adefender
As far as I'm concerned, you should never stare directly towards the sun, except during the total part of a total eclipse. I'm not trusting my eyesight to any pair of cheapo glasses.


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August 12, 2017, 08:22 PM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Seems I'm in the clear. I ordered the Soluna glasses off Amazon, and they appear to be legit. I haven't gotten an email from Amazon in any case.

Soluna Solar Eclipse Glasses - CE and ISO Certified Safe Shades for Direct Sun Viewing, (10 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N...cp_taa_e22JzbR5GK46R
I got these certified eclipse glasses w/ expedited shipping for less that $6 each. Everything left on Amazon is either more than $10 each, expecting more in a few days, or both.



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August 12, 2017, 08:33 PM
Zecpull
Happy to say that I bought actual welding goggles with #14 glass.. I thought they were better because they blocked the side light. And they were shipped from the USA so I already got them


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August 12, 2017, 09:00 PM
a1abdj
I too got the notice and the refund.

The outfit that sold me my hard frame glasses claimed that the filters were sourced from Canada although the frames and assembly took place in China.

I took them outside after they arrived and looked at the sun. They seemed to work just fine.


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