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A good question would be, how wide spread is the problem ?

All of FBI?

Just Strzok and Page ?
 
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Isn't it convenient that only Page and Strozk's weren't retained.





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Justice Department officials say the process of reading and redacting the texts could take “weeks,” and that the thousands of text messages between Strzok and Page span over “several months.”


What an unmitigated crock of shit! The feebs are stonewalling, yet again. They are scared shitless that the swamp creatures residing there will be disclosed and have to answer for their actions.


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FBI is not lying. I'm sure they don't have them but there are many redundancies and other methods to retrieve them. Anyone who works with text messages knows that gone does not mean truly gone.

The 'Bur is in trouble with Intel Committee memo and this inability to retrieve is just damage mitigation taken to an appalling level.
 
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Congressman Nunes should demand the immediate release of all email to or from Page and Strozk discussing the technology failure and the loss of the messages during that period. I'm betting there isn't any such email traffic.





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Maybe somebody remembers Watergate, when some idiot taped everything, then didn’t burn the tapes when the posse was circling.


Taping of Oval Office activities was routine during the Nixon administration, but the famous 18 1/2 minutes that the secretary, Rose Mary Woods, supposedly erased by mistake did go missing. The “gap” was later subjected to forensic analysis and it was claimed that there was evidence that it was caused by several start/stop erasing episodes, and not just one long, unrecognized mistake. I don’t know if that conclusion was ever confirmed or supported later, but just like our previous President’s ostensive birth certificate that was supposedly constructed by numerous digital insertions, that claim never seemed to gain much attention or credence.

Much later John Dean, one of those convicted of involvement in the Watergate cover-up, claimed that there was nothing more incriminating in the gap than what was discussed in tapes that were retained.

At the time those of us who more or less followed events wondered why all the Nixon recordings weren’t destroyed, but the obvious answer was that someone probably thought that that would have been as incriminating as what the tapes revealed. I don’t know what the law was at the time, but it’s also possible destruction of government records could have been an offense even then.




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Sen Johnson responds to FBI









 
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from R Johnson's ltr,

the texts between Strzok and Page indicate strongly that Loretta Lynch knew Comey was going to recommend no charges against Clinton re the emails.

A reminder of Comey's 5 July 2016 statement to congress:

"Second, I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say ."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press...rsonal-e-mail-system

Man, the REPs need to get more aggressive. they can blow this thing wide open.

BTW,

Comey to teach ethical leadership course at William & Mary

Former FBI Director James Comey has landed a teaching gig at his alma mater, the College of William & Mary, and will join the ranks of the school's teaching faculty this fall with a course on ethical leadership.

http://thehill.com/homenews/ad...urse-at-william-mary


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adding: 5 July 2016

This is exactly the early July 2016 time frame when Christopher Steele briefed his first dossier report to "someone" senior in the FBI

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Maybe somebody remembers Watergate, when some idiot taped everything, then didn’t burn the tapes when the posse was circling.


Taping of Oval Office activities was routine during the Nixon administration...

< snip >


It was common during LBJ's mis-administration, too. C-SPAN radio did a long running show of all of the taped telephone conversations. I note that ol' Lyndon, really liked to use four-letter Anglo-Saxon words that were neither "love" nor "kind."





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Former FBI Director James Comey ... will join the ranks of the school's teaching faculty this fall with a course on ethical leadership.


Depending upon his approach to the course, he could be very well qualified to teach it—sort of like George Custer’s teaching a course on fighting large groups of Indians. Education isn’t just about doing things the right way.




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http://dailycaller.com/2018/01...ve-anti-trump-texts/

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The FBI “failed to preserve” five months worth of text messages exchanged between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page

The disclosure was made Friday in a letter sent by the Justice Department to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee (HSGAC).

“The Department wants to bring to your attention that the FBI’s technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page,” Stephen Boyd, the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs at the Justice Department, wrote to Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, the chairman of HSGAC

He said that texts are missing for the period between Dec. 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017.

Johnson expressed concern over the missing text messages, which were sent during a key period of the Russia investigation.

During that time frame is when the Steele dossier was published by BuzzFeed News,
when Strzok participated in a Jan. 24 interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn,
and when James Comey was fired as FBI director.

The end date of the missing Strzok-Page texts is also significant.

That’s because May 17 is the day when Mueller was appointed to take over the FBI’s probe of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian government.

“The loss of records from this period is concerning,” Johnson wrote in a letter sent Saturday to FBI Director Christopher Wray.


Is anybody really surprised that these texts "disappeared" Roll Eyes
This is the kind of stuff that makes people think Obama's DOJ was politicized which we know just can't be true.
 
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The “gap” was later subjected to forensic analysis and it was claimed that there was evidence that it was caused by several start/stop erasing episodes, and not just one long, unrecognized mistake.


Recall a photo of the secretary demonstrating how she caused the gap. Think Tweiter as she had one foot on a pedal while laying back to hold another control. And to do this for 18 minutes.



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Just out of curiosity. How much of the data collected on Trump had disappeared during this investigation?

Since none of this other missing material is missing on purpose, these accidents should be occurring across the board. No?


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Maybe somebody remembers Watergate, when some idiot taped everything, then didn’t burn the tapes when the posse was circling.


Taping of Oval Office activities was routine during the Nixon administration, but the famous 18 1/2 minutes that the secretary, Rose Mary Woods, supposedly erased by mistake did go missing. The “gap” was later subjected to forensic analysis and it was claimed that there was evidence that it was caused by several start/stop erasing episodes, and not just one long, unrecognized mistake. I don’t know if that conclusion was ever confirmed or supported later, but just like our previous President’s ostensive birth certificate that was supposedly constructed by numerous digital insertions, that claim never seemed to gain much attention or credence.

Much later John Dean, one of those convicted of involvement in the Watergate cover-up, claimed that there was nothing more incriminating in the gap than what was discussed in tapes that were retained.

At the time those of us who more or less followed events wondered why all the Nixon recordings weren’t destroyed, but the obvious answer was that someone probably thought that that would have been as incriminating as what the tapes revealed. I don’t know what the law was at the time, but it’s also possible destruction of government records could have been an offense even then.


There was a time when piling the tapes on the south lawn for a bonfire would have been perfectly legal, albeit with some political hell to pay, but no smoking gun. It would all have been hearsay, John Dean against the President, etc. the kind of stuff that “ties go to the runner”, etc. but likely no impeachment.

Both Goldwater and John Connally, who Nixon admired and trusted, gave him that advice, but once it became considered as evidence, certainly after being subpoenaed, destruction would be obstruction of justice.

As Bob Haldeman said in a related context, “”We’re so [expletive deleted] square, we’d get caught.”




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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I know what I’d wear to the hearings...




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Link to original video: https://youtu.be/X1mM4-l4n5E

They make some astonishing references to the contents of the Page-Strzok texts, especially one referencing a "first meeting of a secret society" in the top tier of the FBI and DOJ.



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This is why the left NEEDS the Russia collusion narrative. To accept that nothing the Russians did had an effect on the election would be to accept that the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE EVAR, with the full force of the US Government, DOJ, mainstream media, and all of pop culture behind her lost a fair contest to a crass man that was contemptibly beneath them, and would be absolutely crippling to their collective psyche.
 
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This is why the left NEEDS the Russia collusion narrative. To accept that nothing the Russians did had an effect on the election would be to accept that the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE EVAR, with the full force of the US Government, DOJ, mainstream media, and all of pop culture behind her lost a fair contest to a crass man that was contemptibly beneath them, and would be absolutely crippling to their collective psyche.


It must be devastating to realize you couldn't win even with massive, unequalled, no holds barred cheating, against a man who had never run for elective office, and the very thought whom winning caused howls of disparaging hysteria, and YOU STILL LOST!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Senator Johnson on Brett Bairs show today talks of informant. A lot of talk about this thing is a lot bigger than we think. I hope it's true.

https://youtu.be/NZDTVhsTRpI?t=3m10s
 
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New FBI texts highlight a motive to conceal the president’s involvement.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/...n-not-indict-hillary


A lengthy article about Obama’s ties and motives by Andrew McCarthy, worth a read.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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