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By a man with a Glock 43.

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Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- – On 16 September 2019, Chris Gregersen and Donivan Cambell were bow hunting elk in Montana, in the Gravelly Mountains, when they were attacked by a grizzly bear. They had gone out for an afternoon hunt, and had hunted up steep drainage, climbed the opposite slope, and had been calling for elk on the opposite side of the ridge with a bugle call.

They were returning to their truck and camp. They stopped calling on the top of the ridge, crested the ridge, and were on a steep downward slope, moving toward the creek at the bottom, on an old game trail. There was no cell service in the area.

The weather was clear, in the 50s, with a slight breeze. It was 6:30 p.m. The sun was low in the sky. They wanted to get back before dark.

In addition to their archery equipment, both men had 9 mm pistols. Chris Gregersen had a Glock 43. Donivan Campbell had a Sig Sauer P320. Both guns were loaded with full metal jacketed (FMJ) cartridges.


Chris said he carried the Glock 43 because it was small enough to be taken every day.

Both men are professional biologists, with degrees in wildlife ecology, working in their chosen field. They are familiar with bears and bear behavior. They live and work in Washington State. They are both longtime hunters and fishermen. They are proficient woodsmen.

As they crossed a small bench, they heard an animal jump up, downwind, in the brush to their left (West). It was close, within 20 yards. Their first thought was: elk! As they turned to look, the grizzly bear erupted from the brush, charging at them, woofing and breathing heavily, only feet away. Chris ran and jumped downhill. Donivan attempted to dodge uphill, but the bear veered and grabbed him by the thigh, shaking him like a dog shaking a rat. The initial attack happened in seconds.

Chris said, even if he had a deterrent in hand, he would not have been able to deploy it fast enough.

Chris had just landed when he heard Donivan scream. He immediately drew his pistol and ran uphill toward Donivan and the bear. The bear had shaken Donivan again. Donivan was on his belly, the bear holding him down by standing on his back. The bear had let go of Donivan's leg and was attempting to bite Donivan's head. Donivan had both hands behind his head, trying to protect his neck. His thumbs were in the bear's mouth, trying to hold the bear's teeth away from his head. He could feel the bear's teeth on his hands. To this point, the action had taken about fifteen seconds.

Chris said he had no choice. He had to fire. If he did not fire, Donivan would be killed or injured more severely. He had run to within 15 feet of the bear and Donivan, the bear facing away from him, on top of Donivan. He took a snap sight picture and fired at the bear's rear. It was probably 16 seconds into the attack. The point of aim was the bear's hind quarters. There was no other choice. The bear and Donivan were up slope with brush on either side. There was no time to flank the bear, on a steep hill side, with considerable brush, when fractions of a second could make the difference between life and death. Chris had a clear shot. He has considerable experience shooting under stress while hunting. He says he has “shot a lot.” He had a brief worry about hitting his friend, so he had to do it right.

Chris believes he hit the bear in one of the hind quarters, from the rear. The searchers reported finding a little blood, but it might have been Donivan's. From the back, a 9mm FMJ would be unlikely to reach the bear's vitals or penetrate far enough to reach Donivan. On a large bear, with lots of fat in the fall, a significant blood trail was unlikely.

ROSAL


Also at link are NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH images of Mr. Donivan's rather impressive collection of bear injuries. He probably will drink a few free beers telling the story.





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Eek

Is that Wolf ammo?


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In addition to their archery equipment, both men had 9 mm pistols.


You'd think two experienced hunters would know better to carry something more appropriate in Grizzly bear country. I mean seriously.


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Eek

Is that Wolf ammo?



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Eek

Is that Wolf ammo?


Exactly what I was thinking.


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By no means was he stopped, they just made him uncomfortable enough that he changed his mind. Luckily!!


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Eek Is that Wolf ammo?
No, it's the kind you use for shooting bear.



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In addition to their archery equipment, both men had 9 mm pistols.


You'd think two experienced hunters would know better to carry something more appropriate in Grizzly bear country. I mean seriously.


Grizzlies aren’t really a thing in Washington state (where these guys are from) and my personal take away from this is that a handgun of any caliber is something worth taking with you, bear spray or not.
 
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This guy lives/hunts/guides in Grizzly country.

https://www.americanhunter.org...zly-with-9mm-pistol/
 
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“A warden suggested more power, and a large magazine capacity gave a better chance of hitting the central nervous system. He recommended the Glock 20 in 10mm.”
 
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You'd think two experienced hunters would know better to carry something more appropriate in Grizzly bear country. I mean seriously.


And two experienced biologists, hunters, and experts in their field who are familiar with the behavior of bears might not have run...
 
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We know how a G43 was able to scare off a bear



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“A warden suggested more power, and a large magazine capacity gave a better chance of hitting the central nervous system. He recommended the Glock 20 in 10mm.”


No bear around here but that’s exactly what I changed my side over to recently because the damn hogs are bad enough as it is.

Switched to the 20 because it has more capacity than my Delta Elite, and really didn’t feel like carrying a 1k-ish 1911 out in Texas heat. Sweating on it couldn’t have been a good thing.


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Originally posted by ElToro:
“A warden suggested more power, and a large magazine capacity gave a better chance of hitting the central nervous system. He recommended the Glock 20 in 10mm.”


No bear around here but that’s exactly what I changed my side over to recently because the damn hogs are bad enough as it is.

Switched to the 20 because it has more capacity than my Delta Elite, and really didn’t feel like carrying a 1k-ish 1911 out in Texas heat. Sweating on it couldn’t have been a good thing.

It'd be hard to think of anything better than 15 rnds. of 10mm. Except:
https://www.etsgroup.us/ETS-30...9-40-p/glk-20-30.htm
 
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I would now be carrying a 44 mag or 45-70 carbine. Maybe a slug gun.


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Shit. I carry a G20 with extreme penetrators just to go dirt biking in West Virginia. You’d think these guys would bring something better than 9mm with shitty range ammo
 
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3 years ago, a guide in Alaska killed a grizzly with a S&W 3953 (i.e. 9mm). Don't agree with his choice of gun, but at least he had the sense to have it loaded with Buffalo Bore and knew the vital areas to shoot.

During my 5 years in Alaska, I carried a Ruger Redhawk Super Alaskan in a Diamond D guide holster loaded with Buffalo Bore LBT-LFN. My first one was a .44 mag but I upgraded to .454 casull. Fortunately never had to use it, but I did:
  • have my hand on the grip when a grizzly effortlessly crossed a raging waterfall to fish close to me. I backed away and the bear didn't pay me a bit of attention as he was focused on catching salmon.
  • clear leather when I found myself alone in a bowl with a wolverine. It scampered off.



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    The article seems to describe a single shot being fired at the bear from behind. The later shot fired (reported as "shot," and not "shots") was fired into the brush at the sound of the bear, without a clear target.

    The article also says that one of them is buying a G20.
     
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    When I first moved to AK, the only handgun I had was a Glock 19. I kept it loaded with the Buffalo bore 147g hard cast.

    Glad I never had to find out if it would work.
     
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    Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
    You'd think two experienced hunters would know better to carry something more appropriate in Grizzly bear country. I mean seriously.


    Caliber doesn't matter as much as you may think:

    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/...-effective-63-cases/
     
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