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As some of you may recall, I ruined my front lawn last August by applying WAY too much weed & feed type product and basically killed/burned it up.

I ended up reseeding with this stuff, Kentucky 31, that seems to be growing pretty well but have a fair number of dead and thin patches where I think the soil was just too contaminated for the seed to germinate last September when I did the reseeding.



This stuff is very hardy and fast growing but it's also pretty coarse and lighter green. I plan to do a whole lot more reseeding/overseeding this September to fix all the bare/thin areas and don't know if I can use a Turf-Type Tall Fescue seed instead of the K31? Or will that look like crap? I'm reading conflicting information that some people have mixed types and it's OK and others have tried it and it ends up looking weedy because the much wider, coarser K31 is different than the Turf-Type Tall Fescue.

What do you lawn experts say? Stick with the Kentucky 31 or use something else?

Killing off what's there and starting over is not something I want to do at this point. I've worked way too hard to try to bring it back to start all over again.

This is a stock photo (not my lawn) of what Kentucky 31 grass looks like. It's that coarse, but I don't dislike it, it's just different. Seems like it's pretty hardy and takes heat and drought well:



 
Posts: 25333 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: November 12, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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K31 is kind of the older generation do-all fescue for yards.
There are hybrids that will look/do better.
I have experience with K31, Elite & Tuff-turf, and I like tuff-turf the best. The Elite is a very fine-bladed tall fescue (not a fine fescue), but it didn't really take well to my yard. My step-fathers is really nice, but he waters more than I do.
The tuff-turf has a rhizome & has spread better in my sandy/clay mix of soil. It isn't as fine feeling as Elite, but better than K31. I will continue to overseed with tuff-turf & any new-seed will be the same.
 
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This stuff is very hardy and fast growing but it's also pretty coarse and lighter green. I plan to do a whole lot more reseeding/overseeding this September to fix all the bare/thin areas and don't know if I can use a Turf-Type Tall Fescue seed instead of the K31?

Yes... you can.
I would over-seed in early fall with a Turf-Type Tall Fescue.

https://www.pennington.com/all...ow-about-tall-fescue



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Pasture grass. Not especially pretty. Just ordinary. Hopefully minimal weed seed.


I’d mix some other varieties of fescue. Maybe ryegrass. Bluegrass is my favorite but pricy.
 
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Shoot, I've used Kentucky 31 for years and will continue to do so. Stick with it.



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I think it was the only grass seed I ever knew family to use. The problem I later found was that yards were not supposed to be half clover too.
 
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I use a Lesco sun & shade mix I get at a local landscaping supply place. The same kind of place landscapers and lawn crews get their seed.

I overseeded last fall, then again this spring for good measure. Overkill, perhaps, but the lawn looks like carpeting Smile

Got some brown spots started showing up a couple weeks ago, though. Being as at least one skunk has been going to town aerating our lawn, I'm assuming that's probably grubs. Should abate, as I put down GrubEx a week ago.




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Its damn near impossible to find a bag of grass seed around here which is not labeled Penn State Mix. The seed is a mixture of several grass types.

I think you would be just fine mixing seed as long as you spread some throughout the the yard. If you threw down a 3x3 patch it might be noticeable.


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I planted tall fescue in my backyard this year. I rototilling it and finding something different. It's pale green and lighter than everything else in my yard and grows twice as fast/tall as the rest.

Any suggestions for darker colored grasses that don't grow super tall? Area is mix of sun/shade.



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You probably will get the right scoop from your county extension office.
Grasses are area specific.
I live out side of Atlanta and builder put that crap fescue in .
I plugged with tif green after a few years,don't do that.
Went to Panama city thirty years or so and brought back a pallet of St Augustin.
Not supposed to live here.
It runs every where till it hits a hard barrier.
Took over one neighbors yard.
Great grass,loves shade,sun ,flower beds.
The stuff is beautiful .
Down side is weed whacking drive ,street edge gardens fences etc.
My county extension office recommended against this grass.
 
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It's pale green and lighter than everything else in my yard and grows twice as fast/tall as the rest.

The "Turf Type" Tall Fescue will be darker and finer than just plain Tall Fescue, but not as fine as the Fine Fescue. Smile

Specific varieties will vary somewhat by location:
https://ipm.missouri.edu/MEG/2...rasses-for-Missouri/



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I think it was the only grass seed I ever knew family to use. The problem I later found was that yards were not supposed to be half clover too.


I plant Clover in mine. Makes for easy Deer hinting in the fall. Wink




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Unless you choose carefully your lawn could look bad. Not all grass is the same color or texture or grow at the same rate.

If all types are equally blended no real problem. But like a cake that hasn’t been blended the separate clumps are no bueno.


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Must be some kind of doper's code, huh?


That Kentucky 31 is some good stuff, man.



 
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Spread whatever seed you want - they will duke it out and the best grass will win eventually.

My yard doesn't have any fescue or "grass" - but it's all green, and looks ok after I cut it.


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The one thing I've really noticed about this Kentucky 31 grass is how insanely FAST it grows.

I cut my grass on Sunday and lowered the deck slightly for the K31 in the front yard as it looks better cut a bit shorter than my rear yard grass which is fine fescue (I think?)

It's been rainy (PA is the new Seattle) since Sunday and I saw today that the K31 already needs to be cut again! 3 friggin' days! And I cut it a little shorter this week! Eek

The rear looks fine, but this K31 grass seems to grow at 2-3 times the rate of that other stuff.


 
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PA is the new Seattle

Looks like it. We're short 4 inches of rain this year.


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Here is another question maybe the lawn experts here would know?

Which is better grass seed? Pennington or Scotts?

Or are they both basically the Glock and S&W of grass?

I'm looking at overseeding a section of my lawn that is thin because it's shaded by the magnolia and both of those companies have a dense shade grass seed that supposedly grows well in that environment, I estimate it gets only about 4 hours of full sun a day.


 
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