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'Stop! I’ve done nothing wrong': Nurse shares police video of 'crazy' arrest by S.L. officer

Video from newscast
A SLC cop, (identified as a Detective), arrests an on duty Nurse who wouldn't provide an unconscious patients blood sample to him. The patient was the *victim* in the crash and not under suspicion of any crime.

The Nurse printed out and is showing him the policy that SLC PD agreed to and is on speakerphone with an administrator. Apparently this guy felt that following policy of getting an electronic warrant, consent from the patient or having the patient under arrest was not convenient at the moment.

Unfreakingbelievable.
She hasn't filed any claim yet but I hope she REAMS this badge heavy asshole.

'Nuther longer vid here


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Yep, it's an issue. The recent Arizona law has caused quite a bit of confusion as well. While we used to make blood draws for PD or DPS, we can no longer do that.




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Posts: 11749 | Location: Eagle River, AK | Registered: September 12, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Assuming state law does not require her to comply with the officer's request, and it does not appear so from the article, he is toast civilly as are the officers that stood by and failed to intervene. If state law does require her to comply, then there is nothing to see here other than a badge heavy asshole using extremely poor judgment.
 
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Wow! F#@&ing asshole.


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The officer may want to avoid any potential illness or injuries that would land him as a patient in the ER. Nurses have ways of settling scores. Eek
 
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Those type of things drive Chiefs and Sheriffs absolutely insane.

She tried showing him under what circumstances they could provide blood, none of the criteria was met. At that point, he should have applied for a warrant or left.

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It just occurred to me, where is the ED/ER doc in all of this? He/she is the one giving/writing orders. Nurses can't do anything without doctor's orders, whether verbal or written. If that asshole was going to arrest someone, it should have been the doctor, right?

This reminded me of a case when I used to work ER several years ago. A patient involved in a crash was suspected of DUI. Cop wanted us to do blood draw for BAC level. I told the nurse nope. No court order, no go. Sorry, but I was not going to assault the patient.


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Douchebag cop! Wow.

Good for that nurse for standing up for what she knew was right.


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Originally posted by 12131:
It just occurred to me, where is the ED/ER doc in all of this? He/she is the one giving/writing orders. Nurses can't do anything without doctor's orders, whether verbal or written. If that asshole was going to arrest someone, it should have been the doctor, right?

This reminded me of a case when I used to work ER several years ago. A patient involved in a crash was suspected of DUI. Cop wanted us to do blood draw for BAC level. I told the nurse nope. No court order, no go. Sorry, but I was not going to assault the patient.


Good point. If the doc had been involved, I doubt the officer would have escalated to that point.

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When you treat the good guys like they are the bad guys, it's time to leave the job.

He needs a lesson in humility like losing his job, VERY publicly and forfeiting his retirement as restitution to his VICTIM.


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That guy deserves a punch square to the nuts. Since that is likely not a remedy allowed from IA. Fire his ass and reprimand the other cop lecturing her while she was under arrest.



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Douchebag Jeff Payne claims he was advised by Lieutenant James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to give him the sample.

All because he thought implied consent gave him the authority to collect a blood sample without a warrant from someone unable to provide consent who was not under arrest.

Sorry Douchebag, that applies only when the patient cannot give consent and the care is needed to save the patient's life. Evidentiary blood sample don't fall under implied consent.

And what is beyond the pale is despite there being video of Douchebag's douchebaggery, he is still working as a cop and in a second job, an ambulance driver.

She needs to sue every one of the police officers involved individually for millions of dollars.





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Don't be so quick to judge, we haven't seen what SHE did leading up to that video! /sarcasm


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Wonder if there is a history with the police and this hospital?

This seems to have accelerated out of control very quickly.

The officer "explaining" it to the nurse when she was in the police car was giving out some very bad information that could get a lot of people in trouble.
 
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I saw this on our local news, unbelievable! She
was an Olympic athlete, also, this will get a lot of press. They phrased the cop's situation like this "He's still on duty but can't ask for blood samples". Sounded that stupid.


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So idiot cop believes that evidence illegally obtained would help his case how?

She's lucky he didn't pull the resisting arrest or feared for his safety card and end up beating the shit out of her or shooting her.


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The root cause is poor training on the part of the officers... the nurse knew the law and supreme court decision and why didn't the officers?
 
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The problem is thuggish, bullying, "respect my authoritie" behavior by the this police officer. Jerk should be forced to publicly apologize to that nurse, and that's just a start.


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WTF - so if you don't break the law for us, we are going to arrest you. What a fucked up situation.




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Unfortunately, any settlement will be paid by the taxpayers and not this douche.

This needs to change.
 
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