My boycotting of pro sports will have no effect on their ratings, because I quit watching overpaid, underworked, grown men playing children's games about the time I got out of high school in 1966.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
I love Baseball. There is something American about it.

Used to be. Not anymore.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
But again, you cannot have your cake and eat it too all the time.

"Much worse?" Much worse than attempting to influence a state's attempt to ensure election integrity? I dunno. That's pretty hard to top, in my view.

(Btw: I don't think that saying means what you think it does )

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Virtually every place you go, everything you do, everything you buy is tainted by this.

So, because one cannot stop living, they might as well not try to fight this bullshit at all? Seems to me pretty weak tea, ORC.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
So do not watch any sports. We got it. Emkay.

Conversely: So you've found rationalizations that allow you to feel comfortable continuing to give these businesses your custom. Emkay.

I did the same wrt Facebook for a long while, too. Until I couldn't, anymore. So I get it. Perhaps the only difference being is I knew I was rationalizing my continued support of Facebook.

We all have to determine for ourselves what we feel is "necessary" to make life worth living and, from that, to what extremes we'll go to rationalize our support of businesses that don't reflect our beliefs and principles. For me, and others, sports was easy. For you and others: Not so much. For you and others it might be easy to give up, say, mobile device use (Apple, Google). For me: Not so much.

My wife tells me that double-header games are now only seven innings, and when a game goes into extra innings, the top of the inning begins with a player already on second base. She seemed serious when she said it. Was she pulling my leg?

I'm seeing this thread after just receiving a phone call from the Detroit Tigers Ticket office.

We've been pretty regular attendees to games over the years, and it sounds like they're just trying to gauge people's interest in coming back to the parks.

I informed the gentleman on the phone that they wouldn't see any more ticket money from us due to the Tigers organization not denouncing the players kneeling last year, and MLB's decision to pull the All Star Game from Georgia.

I asked if anyone would really review this information I provided him and he said "yes, its being used to determine how to bring people back to the park".

So, I'm not sure whether or not I did any good today, but if felt good to let a real live representative of the organization know that I'm out and why I'm out.

I miss baseball, my wife and I would watch nearly every night during the season. We watched opening day this year, but haven't turned it on since as their politicizing it has really soured us.

Last time I watched the Tigers Al Kaline was playing.

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So, because one cannot stop living, they might as well not try to fight this bullshit at all? Seems to me pretty weak tea, OR

No, not even close ensig. But you guys (same ones) Keep posting about sports. What about all the shit you and everyone else immerse's themselves in all the time that is owned by people that hate our country and are doing everything they can to turn it into another socialist shithole. Or even better yet getting a paycheck or pension check from the inanity that is hell bent on giving us a communist regime.

But just keep buying and supporting those companies efforts and complaining about sports while your at it.

You don't see the hypocritical aspect to it? But the stuff you want is too important to you to accept it. I get it.

At least I admit it. And no I am not happy about it. But yes we have to move ahead and try to make efforts to change things from where they are trying to push us. We do.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
I stopped watching baseball when they went on strike.

Same here on baseball and since have stopped watching all pro sports.

Is it a boycott to not watch what I don't watch already? Baseball, minimally fun to play, incredibly boring to watch.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
My wife tells me that double-header games are now only seven innings, and when a game goes into extra innings, the top of the inning begins with a player already on second base. She seemed serious when she said it. Was she pulling my leg?

Interesting. It appears your wife is correct.

For the extra innings rule, it looks like it will be applied to the 2021 season.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/...ld-use-ties-instead/

The double header rule might have been for the shortened 2020 season only though. I did not find a reference to indicate it is in place for 2021.

I have not watched a game in years. Kind if lost interest in professional sports in general. Politicizing the game and giving credence to players opinions is the icing on the cake.

Baseball is not a tv sport it's a radio sport. I love it as background noise on the radio when I'm outside on a nice summer day or sitting by the evening camp fire up at the lake.
Sunday afternoons the Twins game is always on the radio. It reminds me so much of my dad. He would have it on religiously going about his work. When the radio announcers voice would rise dad would stop what he was doing and listen intently for a minute and then back to his work without saying a word.

The only time I watch baseball is when the family goes to a AAA game once or twice a year. Great to have a dog and couple of beers while BSing with family and friends. Watching on TV is about as exciting as watching paint dry. There's not much for me to boycott.

Sports access used to be the number one reason people 'had to have' at least basic cable.

The recent years' antics by professional sports et al. should make cord cutting especially easy for a great many more folks that were probably holding out.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Why boycott [MLB]? Because their leaders assume that most of their customers are compliant saps.

The evidence would suggest their assumption is not entirely without merit. Same for fans of the NFL, NBA, and NHL. Yes, a lot of fans have abandoned each of them over their "woke" bullshit. But the majority of them have not.

Therein lies the problem.
"The majority"

Vote with your dollars and sense. MLB can KMA. Now if you REALLY want to say "KMA", don't go to the games, don't watch it on TV... And DONT SUPPORT THEIR SPONSORS.

You want to screw with someone, screw with their money. Miller beer advertises with MLB? Don't buy their beer. Ford? Buy Dodge. Coke-a-cola? Drink Pepsi.

But Americans won't do that.

The NHL is probably the least woke of all the major sports. Probably due to they have the most to lose. They don't have the wide national appeal the other sports have they can't afford to alienate anybody. If anything they are promoting women's hockey more than any social justice stuff which is fine with me. I have been watching hockey for so many years I'm not going to stop now. Besides we have the most exciting thing to ever hit Minnesota hockey in decades in Kirill "the thrill" Kaprizov. As a long suffering Minnesota professional hockey fan he is a joy to watch.

Baseball was the only major sport I ever watched, because it's the only one that moves slow enough for me to keep track of it (and the basic rules are much simpler than some others). I do enjoy going to a ball park because I love their hot dogs. However, it irks me a lot to see MLB crumbling before the Leftist jabs.

I think the NFL is mostly crewed by crooks and criminals, and NBA is not much better, but for many years MLB appeared to hold its morals above that level. Not sure that is true any longer. NHL? Always seemed to me to be fielded by brutes with sticks. I don't watch any of them.

College sports? No. Colleges were instituted to teach students knowledge worth knowing, and that might improve society. They were not created to teach people to play sports, and to thereby provide entertainment for others.

flashguy

I feel sorely tempted here to say something about Atlanta reaping the rewards of the way the state voted in 2020. But I won't. And I feel equally tempted to say something about the way that the state (probably lead by Atlanta) voted two more democrats into office in Jan. 2021 thus making it likely that the filibuster will be done away with, D.C. will become a state, the Supreme Court will be packed, and the Southern Border will REMAIN open to all manner of hostiles to our country - which so many have fought and bled and died for. But I won't. Like hell I won't. Never forget that Atlanta AND Georgia got EXACTLY what they voted for in the recent elections. With that in mind it becomes terribly difficult for me to show ANY pity. I'm out.....FredT

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:

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So, because one cannot stop living, they might as well not try to fight this bullshit at all? Seems to me pretty weak tea, ORC

No, not even close ensig.

No? Then what does "Virtually every place you go, everything you do, everything you buy is tainted by this." mean? Sure reads like "If you can't give up everything, no point in giving up anything" to me.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
But you guys (same ones) Keep posting about sports.

Just who is "you guys?" Because I'm pretty certain I can count on one hand the number of times I've posted any comments about sports whatsoever, in the last year, or more, and have fingers left over.

You see: In the not-too-far distant past Para told us he didn't want to see members giving other members a hard time about continuing to follow sports. So I've mostly forgone expressing my opinions on the matter. This, however, was a thread specifically promoting boycotting MLB, not attacking any particular SF member(s).

What moved you to wander in here being all contrary? I mean: Unless you were looking for a fight?

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
What about all the shit you and everyone else immerse's themselves in all the time that is owned by people that hate our country and are doing everything they can to turn it into another socialist shithole.

In just what such "shit" am I immersing myself all the time?

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Or even better yet getting a paycheck or pension check from the inanity that is hell bent on giving us a communist regime.

From whom am I receiving a pay or pension check?

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
But just keep buying and supporting those companies efforts and complaining about sports while your at it.

Within the last few months I've dumped Facebook, by which I kept in touch with family and dear friends; Amazon Prime, which we used regularly to acquire a helluva lot more than just toys, and our Apple TV subscription {*}. There's more. Those are just the ones I can recall right off the top of my head. They were dumped explicitly for their meddling in politics.

Try again.

{*} The subs were pre-paid and haven't run out, yet. When they do: They're gone. It was the best I could do.

(Btw: I'm not trying to make myself out to be holier than thou. Or holier than anybody. I'm just pointing out your characterization of me or any other particular SF member as "buying and supporting those companies" isn't necessarily accurate.)

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
You don't see the hypocritical aspect to it? But the stuff you want is too important to you to accept it. I get it.

Don't even try the hypocrisy argument on me, because I am one who will, and has, cut off his nose to spite his face where principle is concerned.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
At least I admit it.

Apparently you didn't read my previous comments very far. I conceded that I, like you, continue to use some products and services the suppliers of which have taken positions that conflict with my principles.

E.g.: Apple. I really don't care for some of the positions Apple's taken or things they've done. (E.g.: Banning the Parler app.) But, since a smartphone of some kind is fairly necessary {*} for me, it's either the devil (Apple) or the deep blue sea (Google).

{*} Yes: Necessary. Used for 2FA for various on-line accounts; our home's alarm system; our home's video surveillance system; our identity theft monitoring and protection; the ability to pick up carry-out food; and, in conjunction with my watch, for certain critical health monitoring applications (heart rate, fall detection).

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
But yes we have to move ahead and try to make efforts to change things from where they are trying to push us. We do.

You're not going to change the behavior of anybody by continuing to give them your custom as they piss on your principles.

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Baseball left me years ago during the strike. I did take my wife and daughters to see an Astros game just so they could experience an MLB game, but other than that, nuthin’.

The only sports I watch is when the Fighting Texas Aggies play since one of my daughters is an alum.

These guys right here are my answer to the NFL & NBA & MLB’s toxic & cancerous political embrace. Fuck you guys until the sun burns out. I don’t need you nor do I need your politics. Y’all’s heros are lame.

Put your life on the line and throw down at 200+ MPH or STFU about “social justice”. Let’s see your punk ass pay a pound of flesh and a few broken bones along with a few gallons of blood as the cost to learn at the top level.

These guys are harder than any MLB, NHL, or NFL player and then some.

The best, and by best I mean sadly ironic, part of this chickenshit move by MLB is that it is hurting a large number of black businesses that would benefit from the much needed revenue. According to the interwebs Atlanta is 51% black while Denver is only 9%. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. There has been a lot of pushback from the black business community in Atlanta, but of course you won't hear that from the mainstream media, doesn't fit the narrative.