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December 30, 2019, 07:54 PM
Icabod
Mass shootings, media conglomerates, and SIGforum
I confess to being a news junkie. Over the last 3 months I’ve watched less and less news. None of the channels seem to provide “Just the facts.”
My wife comes down, grabs the controller and turns on a major network. Invariably it’s “Now several minutes talking to someone you’ve never heard of, talking about something you have no interest in.” News? It’s “Orange Mandalay bad.”



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December 31, 2019, 12:33 PM
ArtieS
I absolutely agree with respect to the problem of the media. I am also in complete accord with the 24 hour rule, the facts rules, the no conspiracy theory rules, the hide-the name of the shooter rule, and the no sensationalism rule.

I regret that it has come to this where an outright ban on discussion of these events is necessary. I am with Strambo, in that I have used these threads to learn how the shooters, crowds, and effective "good guys with guns" react to these events.

Good examples of these are the Pensacola Navy Base shooting and the recent Texas church shooting. I learned things about the events, how they happened and how they were stopped.

I think that knowledge has made me wiser and better prepared. This forum is the only place where I could have learned those things as the news does not report, analyze or discuss in any depth.

What we gain by forbidding this subject is that we stop feeding the media beast, turn down the societal temperature on these events, and to the extent that we are intemperate in our remarks, protect the interests of the 2A community by keeping those intemperate remarks out of the public sphere.

What we lose is the knowledge to be learned from the experienced and intelligent commentary that these threads often generate.



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Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II.
December 31, 2019, 03:36 PM
hvactech
I started reading this book on this very concerning subject / issue.

"The Liberal Media Industrial Complex" by Mark Dice.

Thank you Para
December 31, 2019, 10:17 PM
bigdeal
Though I'm not much of a fan, I 100% agree with Sean Hannity's comment...."Journalism is completely dead in this country". The media will say and do anything to up their ratings and draw eyes to their websites. Virtually nothing they report at this point is accurate or honest. As such, I ignore virtually everything they print or broadcast. I also agree 100% with our president's assertion that the media is "the enemy of this country". We should treat them as such.


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December 31, 2019, 10:21 PM
P220 Smudge
It is no longer about reporting facts and the truth, and it hasn’t been for a long time. It’s been about selling advertising by using lurid, clickbait headlines.


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January 02, 2020, 06:06 AM
Marlin Fan
No Shit!!
January 02, 2020, 07:36 AM
stickman428
I am convinced the corporate media is 100% the enemy of liberty, truth and America as we know it. The people who are in charge and what they report is not fact based. The reporting, ALL OF IT is agenda based and by and large every news outlet leans either left or hard left. If it bleeds it leads. Our society could be less violent than in the past but if a media outlet reports every violent act suddenly it feels like times are getting more and more violent. They can craft public perception and they know it.

The best part about the internet is that the corporate media’s digital monopoly on misinformation and lies now has a legitimate challenger. But the silver lining is that now the truth is accessible to people who are willing to find it.

Industries change over time. I want to see the evil American corporate media eventually die and some other industry replace it. Hopefully something a bit more honest and friendly towards liberty.


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April 08, 2021, 10:21 AM
parabellum
BTT for newer members. If you post news items in this forum, please read the first post of this thread.
April 08, 2021, 10:34 AM
Gallo Pazzesco
Guilty as charged ... mea culpa.

It was the gist of my post about the mass murder here in SC ... the MSM is to blame imho. I totally agree with you. The MSM and the politicians are driving this.

ESPN is now making it a race issue ... claiming black players in the NFL do not get the same treatment for brain injuries that white players do.

It never stops, it never ends.


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April 08, 2021, 11:41 AM
bald1
Thanks Mike!

Totally concur with your sentiments and actions. I enjoy being a passenger on this ship you steer. Big Grin

In my twilight years I have little patience for the sordid, corrupt, lying, biased 4th estate, the megalomaniacal anti-American globalist corporations and tech-giants, or their three letter agency partners in government. No one needs to be their echo chamber repeating their swill. A pox on all their houses! Mad



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April 08, 2021, 12:08 PM
10X-Shooter
I’ve dropped news altogether since the elec-sham and I’ve enjoyed the sanctuary from so called news here. Only time I learn something happened is when someone on any of my firearms programs/videos mentions it.
April 08, 2021, 02:52 PM
mdblanton
Well stated Para. Calling what airs these days ‘news’ is a disservice to the term of what real journalists used to present. It’s all spin with an end goal and narrative in mind. My biggest concern is the shear number of people who believe what’s put in front of them without consideration of the biases which influence what’s broadcast/printed in media.

Michael
April 08, 2021, 04:20 PM
Zecpull
It was so blatantly obvious when you see how they covered the last two... The first was all about race, even though it was actually about profession...
The other was almost swept under the rug


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May 27, 2021, 11:43 AM
darthfuster
Thank you for the reminder. I know I don’t post about this topic but forgot why.



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May 27, 2021, 11:55 AM
ensigmatic
How long-term members with tens of thousands of posts can possibly not know or remember this I do not understand. Hell, I have poor short-term memory and am absent-minded as anybody you'll ever meet, and even I can remember this one.

(darthfuster, that was not in reply to you.)



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May 27, 2021, 01:05 PM
darthfuster
No worries. There’s a lot of water that goes under my bridge every day. So some details get lost. What I do is make a general note to myself when Parabellum states a requirement. In this case it is no mass shooting threads. Also, I try to find and read every post he makes so I don’t miss anything.



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May 27, 2021, 02:27 PM
83v45magna
We had quit national news probably 5 years ago or more. Had it cut down to 1 local newscast at 10pm, ostensibly to get the weather and try and glean at least some fact from local news.

The Geo. Floyd nonsense caused the 10pm news became more like an afternoon talkshow, with massive 10-15 minute segments where black people talked about how they felt. We started to skip the news most nights. Got the weather online. We might tune in once on three weeks.

Then, after that the 'curve flattening' two weeks was a true game changer. Bein' that it was supposed to be a health emergency and all, we tuned in again. Twice. Mainly to see if the previous broadcast was a one off. It wasn't.
I now have a custom 5 minute recording from around 10:16 to 10:21, specifically targeting the weather segment only. It only keeps the last one recorded.

Nowadays, if we notice flags at half staff, we might look on the internet for news. Otherwise, I'm here most days...
May 27, 2021, 02:36 PM
Kept Bum
Para, exactly why I am here, thank you



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June 22, 2021, 07:28 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:
Since OAN was recommended, that's the only news we watch now. My blood pressure went down.
I would, but my cable company doesn't carry it.

flashguy




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June 22, 2021, 08:04 PM
recoatlift
I only care for the local news…county news is too much for me.