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Let's Discuss Relocation Of The U.S. Embassy In Israel

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December 06, 2017, 10:27 PM
46and2
Let's Discuss Relocation Of The U.S. Embassy In Israel
^ one that involves important work, love of country, and honesty.

Which is why hardly no one else in D.C. recognizes or appreciates it.
December 07, 2017, 12:49 PM
downtownv
Oh oh, That changes the story line, that President Trump is a Nazi, no?


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December 07, 2017, 12:57 PM
SIG4EVA
This always cracked me up. The dirtbag Palestinians are claiming there won't be any peace if this move is made. Oh really? I guess them digging tunnels and kidnapping Israeli's is what peace looks like? Or maybe the daily rocket bombings and suicide attacks. Screw the barbarians and everyone in that region. We don't need their oil anymore. Let it burn.


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December 07, 2017, 01:44 PM
Rightwire
What always cracks me up is listening to the Palestinians cry about how their country was stolen. There has never been an independently ruled Palestine in modern history. They were ruled by many different countries and forces for hundreds of years.

They were offered an opportunity to become part of Israel, and wanted no part of that. Their Arab neighbors fanned that fire and used them as a front line attack force veiled under liberation armies for decades. Its all a big sham




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December 07, 2017, 02:01 PM
Hound Dog
Generally, anything the 'palestinians' and radical muslims are angry about is good for America.

Anything they are happy about is bad for America.

God bless Israel and God Bless President Trump.



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December 07, 2017, 03:07 PM
arabiancowboy
quote:
Originally posted by SevenPlusOne:
quote:
Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
I think its great. Kick the hornets nest, then step on all hornets.

Or just use napalm.
I'll use whatever they give me.
December 07, 2017, 03:12 PM
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December 07, 2017, 03:44 PM
Il Cattivo
In pockets. As usual.
December 07, 2017, 06:45 PM
nhtagmember
finally...

that was a great announcement - a president with some balls did the right thing



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December 07, 2017, 06:50 PM
arcwelder
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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yeah, we don't want to make chronically angry terrorists angry. Roll Eyes


No more analysis is needed than this.

I give Trump a UUUUUUUUUGE thumbs up for this move.


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December 08, 2017, 04:38 AM
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I found what you said riveting.
December 08, 2017, 11:21 AM
lkdr1989
Another awesome one from Branco:






...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

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December 08, 2017, 11:42 AM
drtenb330
Thank you SigMonkey for the blessing. It's amazing how you always go right to the heart. I just read what you wrote, but I did say it as it occurred.

Trump made an historic move to affirmed a allied county's right to not only exist, but to recognize it's OWN sovereign capital.

The actual temple mount: there are no state plans or official plans to rebuild any temple. In fact, Israel has allowed the Waqf - a Jordanian religious authority, to maintain the religious right to control the mount. Most Jews are not allowed on the mount. It is against most orthodox Jewish beliefs to even go up there as its considered so holy, you would need to ritually prepare oneself with items that do not exist today.
There are some private groups that say they are preparing, but the government, police, border guard, and IDF would not allow it. There would have to be some tectonic shift, where no violence would be triggered.

I've been up there, and have been inside the large mosque - what some call the Dome of the Rock. I had no choice, it was an order while in the IDF. I'm sure the calls to violence on the arab side will continue, and Jewish lives will be lost. This was a historic moment. At the same time there was celebrating, many IDF units were put on alert.
December 08, 2017, 12:56 PM
joel9507
They say this will slow the peace process, but they don't explain exactly how one could slow something that is not moving.

And, to be honest, do we care about getting some official, pie-in-the-sky 'peace' or do we just want people to stop killing one another? I would think Israel's primary backer showing a little spine might just do what decades of waffling and bribing didn't.

I like Thomas Sowell's dictionary, which includes something to the effect (years ago, and quoting from memory here):

"Moderate Islamists" - mythical beings to whom the State Department makes periodic offerings."
December 08, 2017, 02:17 PM
nhtagmember
I understand whats going on

I just don't understand why all the fuss

Israel says that Jerusalem is its capital - and all we are doing is moving our embassy there

I see this as some other country coming along and putting their embassy in Miami because they don't like DC

so why all the fuss?



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December 08, 2017, 02:28 PM
JALLEN
Deputy National Security Adviser Dina Powell plans to leave the Trump administration early next year, the White House announced Friday.

In a brief statement, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders called Powell a "trusted adviser," claiming she always planned to serve only one year before returning to New York.

Sanders said Powell will "continue to support the President's agenda and work on Middle East policy."

National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster said in a statement that Powell "has been an invaluable member of President Trump's team" who "drove an effort to restore our nation's strategic competence."

He said: "All of us look forward to continuing to work with her, as she continues to support this Administration's efforts on Middle East peace and other issues."

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December 08, 2017, 02:28 PM
lkdr1989
From what I understand:

Because of the importance of Jerusalem historically & spiritually, the palestinians/muslims kept insisting that they have a say in the control of Jerusalem and that has been constantly used as a bargaining point in all of these "peace" talks/agreements; but after all these years, it hasn't helped at all in achieving any peace so the Orange One took it off the table. Hope I got this correct.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I understand whats going on

I just don't understand why all the fuss

Israel says that Jerusalem is its capital - and all we are doing is moving our embassy there

I see this as some other country coming along and putting their embassy in Miami because they don't like DC

so why all the fuss?





...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
December 08, 2017, 02:37 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
why all the fuss?
Those who do not like President Trump will not pass any opportunity, no matter how inappropriate it might be, to complain loudly. Therefore, the fuss.



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December 08, 2017, 02:58 PM
Hound Dog
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I understand whats going on

I just don't understand why all the fuss


This is ALL about appeasing muslims and hating on Israel.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The muslims want Jerusalem, even though they have NO historic connection to the city. Even though Israel has a 3000-year long connection with Jerusalem. The US has nothing like it - no one city that captures the very heart and soul of the country. Actually, I think the only reason the muslims want Jerusalem is so that they can deny it to the Israelis.

And the idiots in the msm go along with the 'appeasement' angle, since they, too, hate Israel and hate President Trump. You can bet that if zippy the wonder turtle did this 4 years ago, the media would have been gushing about what a wonderful, presidential, and 'historic' thing this would have been. Of course, zippy is a muslim, and his hatred of Israel is a matter of public record. He never would have even considered doing such a thing. Bush Jr and clinton never did, either, as clinton was trying to appease the muslims in order to cement his (failed) legacy by 'securing peace in the Middle East,' and Bush Jr just apparently didn't want to rock the boat.



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December 08, 2017, 05:19 PM
RichardC
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/...s-jerusalem-decision

:As part of an international protest series called "Hands Off Jerusalem," demonstrators came together at Lake Eola this evening in reaction to the White House's decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

President Trump's move on Dec. 6 backtracks on more than a half century of foreign policy, further angering allies while inflaming tensions throughout the region. Coupled with the move, Trump has also promised that the U.S. embassy will be relocated from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, although a waiver has been signed that requires the embassy to remain in its current location for six months.

About 60 individuals showed up to exercise their First Amendment right at the protest, and the crowd seemed to grow slightly as the afternoon faded into night.

Pro-Palestine protesters wore the Palestinian flag around their necks in a show of support. A Palestinian flag waved over the crowd. "


Fuckoff, commies.


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